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	<title>Comments on: Whitewater Rafting is very safe, CNN!</title>
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		<title>By: zeke@rafting royal gorge</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-126355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zeke@rafting royal gorge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 04:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, these accidents can be prevented considering that we are given instructions before we engage to a certain activity. All we need to do is to take responsibility by adhering on the guidelines in each stretch and I think we&#039;ll manage quite well. I couldn&#039;t agree more on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, these accidents can be prevented considering that we are given instructions before we engage to a certain activity. All we need to do is to take responsibility by adhering on the guidelines in each stretch and I think we&#8217;ll manage quite well. I couldn&#8217;t agree more on this.</p>
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		<title>By: ALex McLane</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-124951</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ALex McLane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To add to that I don&#039;t think the percentage of deaths go up with more advanced rafting trips even though the numbers are much smaller.  I&#039;ve guided a class II whitewater section for four summers in Colorado and we&#039;ve had a death on that stretch every year I&#039;ve been there and just upstream from that section is a Class V section were I haven&#039;t heard of any deaths the years I&#039;ve worked there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to that I don&#8217;t think the percentage of deaths go up with more advanced rafting trips even though the numbers are much smaller.  I&#8217;ve guided a class II whitewater section for four summers in Colorado and we&#8217;ve had a death on that stretch every year I&#8217;ve been there and just upstream from that section is a Class V section were I haven&#8217;t heard of any deaths the years I&#8217;ve worked there.</p>
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		<title>By: River Rafting in India</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-119190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[River Rafting in India]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 05:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.riverraftinginindia.net/ - Central Himalayan Adventure offers to the adventurous traveller to enjoy the thrill of white water river rafting in India. The most popular river rafting places are Garhwal Himalayas, Uttarakhand in India. And if you also wanna to enjoy camping in rishikesh or stay in a riverside camps situated on sandy ganga beach. The camps at Rishikesh are very much environmentally friendly. People say rishikesh rafting is most enjoyable river rafting in india. 

Central Himalayan Adventure are a Rafting Tour Operator conducting Rafting and Camping in Rishikesh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.riverraftinginindia.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.riverraftinginindia.net/</a> &#8211; Central Himalayan Adventure offers to the adventurous traveller to enjoy the thrill of white water river rafting in India. The most popular river rafting places are Garhwal Himalayas, Uttarakhand in India. And if you also wanna to enjoy camping in rishikesh or stay in a riverside camps situated on sandy ganga beach. The camps at Rishikesh are very much environmentally friendly. People say rishikesh rafting is most enjoyable river rafting in india. </p>
<p>Central Himalayan Adventure are a Rafting Tour Operator conducting Rafting and Camping in Rishikesh.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-103060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FoolsGold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt if fatalities is the best measure of white water rafting safety. Injuries to the face from paddle handles, injuries to the knees and non-fatal head impacts with rocks would probably be a better measure of safety. 

Overall, its probably a quite safe sport, but its good to have information available.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt if fatalities is the best measure of white water rafting safety. Injuries to the face from paddle handles, injuries to the knees and non-fatal head impacts with rocks would probably be a better measure of safety. </p>
<p>Overall, its probably a quite safe sport, but its good to have information available.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-102570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tessa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously this blog is from a long time ago, but I stumbled upon it while searching for info about whitewater deaths. Thanks for posting this. Also, the best way to ensure your safety is to go with an outfitter and go on a river that is a good level. You said you did the Rogue, obviously a great choice for a family trip. There&#039;s a good website in California, where I began my river career, that lets you compare the outfitters and has information about a bunch of different rivers: &lt;a href=&quot;www.CaliforniaWhitewater.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;guide to whitewater rafting and kayaking in California&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously this blog is from a long time ago, but I stumbled upon it while searching for info about whitewater deaths. Thanks for posting this. Also, the best way to ensure your safety is to go with an outfitter and go on a river that is a good level. You said you did the Rogue, obviously a great choice for a family trip. There&#8217;s a good website in California, where I began my river career, that lets you compare the outfitters and has information about a bunch of different rivers: <a href="www.CaliforniaWhitewater.com" rel="nofollow">guide to whitewater rafting and kayaking in California</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-65306</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still feel safer in my raft than I ever feel on I-5 at rush hour  :P  David makes an excellent point, commercial trips are far safer and the level of fatalities far lower, the CNN story paints a biased picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still feel safer in my raft than I ever feel on I-5 at rush hour  <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   David makes an excellent point, commercial trips are far safer and the level of fatalities far lower, the CNN story paints a biased picture.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brown</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-64938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most obvious flaw in the CNN story is that the deaths they cited are all the whitewater deaths compiled by American Whitewater, not commercial rafting fatalities.  This figure includes kayaks, self-guided whitewater boaters of all types which are five times higher than commercially guided fatalities. CNN tried to make it appear that all these deaths were from commercial raft trips.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most obvious flaw in the CNN story is that the deaths they cited are all the whitewater deaths compiled by American Whitewater, not commercial rafting fatalities.  This figure includes kayaks, self-guided whitewater boaters of all types which are five times higher than commercially guided fatalities. CNN tried to make it appear that all these deaths were from commercial raft trips.</p>
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		<title>By: Piet Nirvana</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-54419</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Piet Nirvana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when you say it&#039;s ove. Piet Nirvana.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you say it&#8217;s ove. Piet Nirvana.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2006/12/21/whitewater-rafting-is-very-safe-cnn/#comment-31080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 17:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question on #21 for Kim: Was it a commercial float or a private trip ?  10 minutes is a long time to be in a class IV rapid, most outfitters would not allow that to happen.

RE: Lifejackets and whitewater: there is a common assumption that lifejackets keep your head above water at all times. WRONG - they are buoyant in water, and when you are in a rapid often the water is highly aerated, thus diminishing the floatation of the jacket.  Regardless of aeration, wave action, currents and hydraulics are frequently strong enough in rapids to take you under for brief periods.  Invariably you will pop to the surface.  A good commercial outfitter typically goes over how to breath strategically in a rapid, though to be fair it is a skill that takes practice and most neophytes are going to forget all that in the panic of being in the water.

Class IV water is very serious whitewater and should be treated accordingly.  

DEFINITION - Class IV -Very difficult, long, extended rapids that require careful maneuvering of the raft; powerful irregular waves, strong hydraulics and dangerous rocks are common. The course is hard to determine and scouting is often necessary. These conditions can make rescue difficult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question on #21 for Kim: Was it a commercial float or a private trip ?  10 minutes is a long time to be in a class IV rapid, most outfitters would not allow that to happen.</p>
<p>RE: Lifejackets and whitewater: there is a common assumption that lifejackets keep your head above water at all times. WRONG &#8211; they are buoyant in water, and when you are in a rapid often the water is highly aerated, thus diminishing the floatation of the jacket.  Regardless of aeration, wave action, currents and hydraulics are frequently strong enough in rapids to take you under for brief periods.  Invariably you will pop to the surface.  A good commercial outfitter typically goes over how to breath strategically in a rapid, though to be fair it is a skill that takes practice and most neophytes are going to forget all that in the panic of being in the water.</p>
<p>Class IV water is very serious whitewater and should be treated accordingly.  </p>
<p>DEFINITION &#8211; Class IV -Very difficult, long, extended rapids that require careful maneuvering of the raft; powerful irregular waves, strong hydraulics and dangerous rocks are common. The course is hard to determine and scouting is often necessary. These conditions can make rescue difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: yagmur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yagmur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 15:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice</p>
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