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		<title>By: Fools Gold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/02/18/jobs-to-bad-teachers-you-should-be-out-of-jobs/#comment-20277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fools Gold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually brewdude, I agree with you despite the fact that in a very poor area the few teachers who were functional illiterates but had been concealing it very well were indeed good teachers. I do think getting rid of them was correct however. It is just that when teachers unions make the &quot;test for good or bad&quot; such a low hurdle that it becomes more of a silly joke than anything else. 

Books are cheap these days compared to when this country was developing and often the investment in technology in a school is a poor metric if the technology is underutilized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually brewdude, I agree with you despite the fact that in a very poor area the few teachers who were functional illiterates but had been concealing it very well were indeed good teachers. I do think getting rid of them was correct however. It is just that when teachers unions make the &#8220;test for good or bad&#8221; such a low hurdle that it becomes more of a silly joke than anything else. </p>
<p>Books are cheap these days compared to when this country was developing and often the investment in technology in a school is a poor metric if the technology is underutilized.</p>
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		<title>By: brewdude</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/02/18/jobs-to-bad-teachers-you-should-be-out-of-jobs/#comment-20259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewdude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One state tried quite some time ago to weed out underperforming teachers but the test was so easy that it just weeded out the illiterate teachers.

Well you do have to admit,  that is a pretty darn good first step.  I say fire all of the illiterate teachers....   :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One state tried quite some time ago to weed out underperforming teachers but the test was so easy that it just weeded out the illiterate teachers.</p>
<p>Well you do have to admit,  that is a pretty darn good first step.  I say fire all of the illiterate teachers&#8230;.   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/02/18/jobs-to-bad-teachers-you-should-be-out-of-jobs/#comment-20236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fools Gold - I think you are right, this was off topic and a silly study...I should ban myself from comments!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fools Gold &#8211; I think you are right, this was off topic and a silly study&#8230;I should ban myself from comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Fools Gold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/02/18/jobs-to-bad-teachers-you-should-be-out-of-jobs/#comment-20234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fools Gold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[20: Timely perhaps but totally irrelevant and utterly worthless to the question of a good or bad teacher. 

The only sexualization of JonBenet Ramsey was by the media who altered the images and repeatedly used &#039;glamor shots&#039; despite the availability of the far more numerous &#039;ordinary shots&#039; that filled the family album and actually depicted what her real life was like rather than a few beauty pageants that she chose to enter.

One state tried quite some time ago to weed out underperforming teachers but the test was so easy that it just weeded out the illiterate teachers.


One study of a few subjects who took a math test while wearing a swim suit is hardly persuasive of anything and quite frankly I think any girl in a swim suit who is suddenly confronted with a math test should indeed be suspicious and distracted (as well as probably a bit chilly).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20: Timely perhaps but totally irrelevant and utterly worthless to the question of a good or bad teacher. </p>
<p>The only sexualization of JonBenet Ramsey was by the media who altered the images and repeatedly used &#8216;glamor shots&#8217; despite the availability of the far more numerous &#8216;ordinary shots&#8217; that filled the family album and actually depicted what her real life was like rather than a few beauty pageants that she chose to enter.</p>
<p>One state tried quite some time ago to weed out underperforming teachers but the test was so easy that it just weeded out the illiterate teachers.</p>
<p>One study of a few subjects who took a math test while wearing a swim suit is hardly persuasive of anything and quite frankly I think any girl in a swim suit who is suddenly confronted with a math test should indeed be suspicious and distracted (as well as probably a bit chilly).</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/02/18/jobs-to-bad-teachers-you-should-be-out-of-jobs/#comment-20225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timely:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070220/ts_alt_afp/uschildrensex_070220135757]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timely:<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070220/ts_alt_afp/uschildrensex_070220135757" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070220/ts_alt_afp/uschildrensex_070220135757</a></p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/02/18/jobs-to-bad-teachers-you-should-be-out-of-jobs/#comment-20220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glenn I&#039;m struggling with the issues of how to deal with TV, Internet, Media imagery and kids. The kids seem to be handling the confusion pretty well, but I agree that the treatment of girls and women, esp. in music videos, music industry, online industry, is really questionable.  I&#039;m worried how youth - teens especially - process all the graphic material that new media tosses at them.   However I should say when I ask my son and friend about this I&#039;m impressed with their thoughtful replies and the fact they seem to make a big distinction between the real world and the virtual one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn I&#8217;m struggling with the issues of how to deal with TV, Internet, Media imagery and kids. The kids seem to be handling the confusion pretty well, but I agree that the treatment of girls and women, esp. in music videos, music industry, online industry, is really questionable.  I&#8217;m worried how youth &#8211; teens especially &#8211; process all the graphic material that new media tosses at them.   However I should say when I ask my son and friend about this I&#8217;m impressed with their thoughtful replies and the fact they seem to make a big distinction between the real world and the virtual one.</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is amazing what they let kids get away with now...and it is always a reflection of things at home.

At least our children come home and tell us even if we don&#039;t want to hear it.  I cannot believe what children are allowed to do at home in regard to watching movies or surfing the net without supervision!!!

Some of these parents are setting up their kids for a very sad future with the images they allow them to absorb through music, film, etc.

I don&#039;t have a problem with adults listening, watching or doing anything they want but these kids need to be protected from it.

Most of the stuff is so demoralizing especially toward girls and woman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing what they let kids get away with now&#8230;and it is always a reflection of things at home.</p>
<p>At least our children come home and tell us even if we don&#8217;t want to hear it.  I cannot believe what children are allowed to do at home in regard to watching movies or surfing the net without supervision!!!</p>
<p>Some of these parents are setting up their kids for a very sad future with the images they allow them to absorb through music, film, etc.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with adults listening, watching or doing anything they want but these kids need to be protected from it.</p>
<p>Most of the stuff is so demoralizing especially toward girls and woman.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It is high time that parents took a look at themselves.&lt;/i&gt;

Right!   We&#039;ve really been very impressed with our local Elementary and High School teachers, almost without exception. My wife subsitute teaches and so we know them better than most .   I&#039;d agree with Brewdude that most of the troubles are with home life rather than school issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is high time that parents took a look at themselves.</i></p>
<p>Right!   We&#8217;ve really been very impressed with our local Elementary and High School teachers, almost without exception. My wife subsitute teaches and so we know them better than most .   I&#8217;d agree with Brewdude that most of the troubles are with home life rather than school issues.</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fools Gold not sure that description fits the bill.  Our kids are now in public schools and up until about 3 years ago they were all in private schools.

In our particular area the public schools are doing quite well with the students...every year they are building additional new facilities.  Every student has an iBook and for their reports they do full multimedia presentation and the parents are invited to attend when the student is in front of class presenting.

The gifted programs are within the same school and it is integrated into their daily school life...it really is amazing.

What they are doing as 7 and 11 year olds really blows my mind.  They are far better equipped for our evolving society than I thought a public school could produce.

It isn&#039;t all roses though - there are problems and I do agree the problem students are kept and not properly disciplined - that is an issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fools Gold not sure that description fits the bill.  Our kids are now in public schools and up until about 3 years ago they were all in private schools.</p>
<p>In our particular area the public schools are doing quite well with the students&#8230;every year they are building additional new facilities.  Every student has an iBook and for their reports they do full multimedia presentation and the parents are invited to attend when the student is in front of class presenting.</p>
<p>The gifted programs are within the same school and it is integrated into their daily school life&#8230;it really is amazing.</p>
<p>What they are doing as 7 and 11 year olds really blows my mind.  They are far better equipped for our evolving society than I thought a public school could produce.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t all roses though &#8211; there are problems and I do agree the problem students are kept and not properly disciplined &#8211; that is an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Fools Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fools Gold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The advantage of some of the private schools is that they can select poor students but can also reject the problem students. Public schools are indeed dumping grounds, but where else are you going to put the kids. They are too young to go to prison.... yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advantage of some of the private schools is that they can select poor students but can also reject the problem students. Public schools are indeed dumping grounds, but where else are you going to put the kids. They are too young to go to prison&#8230;. yet.</p>
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