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	<title>Comments on: Marissa Mayer on intersection of strong AI and search</title>
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		<title>By: Are you biased? &#171; Joe Duck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-69260</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Are you biased? &#171; Joe Duck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] let alone consciousness.    Of course, they are not nearly as pretty as Google uber-Engineer Marissa Mayer who estimated 10-15 years, so I&#8217;m going with her [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] let alone consciousness.    Of course, they are not nearly as pretty as Google uber-Engineer Marissa Mayer who estimated 10-15 years, so I&#8217;m going with her [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Conference and Expo &#171; Joe Duck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-67931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Web 2.0 Conference and Expo &#171; Joe Duck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] last year but will be there this time and I&#8217;m really looking forward to it.   Last year Marissa Mayer was the keynote and I&#8217;m hoping she&#8217;ll be speaking again.  She&#8217;s one of the best [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last year but will be there this time and I&#8217;m really looking forward to it.   Last year Marissa Mayer was the keynote and I&#8217;m hoping she&#8217;ll be speaking again.  She&#8217;s one of the best [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-53075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great comment Craig.   I&#039;d agree that the first big AI breakthroughs may come in AL realm - perhaps a reverse engineering of the human brain into AL style components formed from some type of organic material like neurons.   There&#039;s some really neat Israeli research now that is connecting processors to neurons.   It&#039;s interesting to think how we, as organic thinking objects, currently do a lot of interaction with silicon &quot;thinking&quot; objects like computers. 

It&#039;s obviously a very big deal but an eventual inevitability that this indirect interaction will eventually be direct - ie our assembly of human neurons will communicate more *directly*  with the silicon assemblies rather than simply through our visual cortex.   This will lead to a human intellectual enhancement that is hard to even imagine.  Translation, math, and .... wow is my chess going to improve!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment Craig.   I&#8217;d agree that the first big AI breakthroughs may come in AL realm &#8211; perhaps a reverse engineering of the human brain into AL style components formed from some type of organic material like neurons.   There&#8217;s some really neat Israeli research now that is connecting processors to neurons.   It&#8217;s interesting to think how we, as organic thinking objects, currently do a lot of interaction with silicon &#8220;thinking&#8221; objects like computers. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s obviously a very big deal but an eventual inevitability that this indirect interaction will eventually be direct &#8211; ie our assembly of human neurons will communicate more *directly*  with the silicon assemblies rather than simply through our visual cortex.   This will lead to a human intellectual enhancement that is hard to even imagine.  Translation, math, and &#8230;. wow is my chess going to improve!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-53014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AI is dead, long live AL!  ;-)

I think the comment about the future being about massive parallel processing as opposed to massive supercomputing is very apropos although the mention of AI is almost a couple of decades behind, except in popular literature.

AL (Artificial Life) can more easily mimic actual thought processes because like the brain&#039;s thought process broken down to its smallest component, the firing of neurons, AL Agents are very simple and coded with a very small set of rules to follow.

Also, just like the human brain is easily the most advanced as well as most massively parallel processor in the world AL Agents can each be given a small portion of a complex task, each perform their task individually and then as they each complete their respective tasks, contribute their output to the combined output and finally coming up with an answer.

Try to write a computer program to architect a termite mound using AI based question sequences and you&#039;ll get nowhere.  Try the same thing by programming individual Agents to perform the same simple processes that their natural counterparts perform and what before was impossible becomes almost trivial.

With AL though, as opposed to AI where the &quot;intelligence&quot; comes from the programmer, the best AL intelligence comes from having large data sets to train on and who arguably has some of the largest datasets in the world to work with?

Google and AL seem like they were literally made for each other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AI is dead, long live AL!  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think the comment about the future being about massive parallel processing as opposed to massive supercomputing is very apropos although the mention of AI is almost a couple of decades behind, except in popular literature.</p>
<p>AL (Artificial Life) can more easily mimic actual thought processes because like the brain&#8217;s thought process broken down to its smallest component, the firing of neurons, AL Agents are very simple and coded with a very small set of rules to follow.</p>
<p>Also, just like the human brain is easily the most advanced as well as most massively parallel processor in the world AL Agents can each be given a small portion of a complex task, each perform their task individually and then as they each complete their respective tasks, contribute their output to the combined output and finally coming up with an answer.</p>
<p>Try to write a computer program to architect a termite mound using AI based question sequences and you&#8217;ll get nowhere.  Try the same thing by programming individual Agents to perform the same simple processes that their natural counterparts perform and what before was impossible becomes almost trivial.</p>
<p>With AL though, as opposed to AI where the &#8220;intelligence&#8221; comes from the programmer, the best AL intelligence comes from having large data sets to train on and who arguably has some of the largest datasets in the world to work with?</p>
<p>Google and AL seem like they were literally made for each other.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-52050</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, thx for clarification Matt.  I corrected above post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thx for clarification Matt.  I corrected above post.</p>
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		<title>By: SES San Jose 2007 write-up</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-51913</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SES San Jose 2007 write-up]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Fox. Joe Hunkins and I finally got to talk face-to-face, and spent our time discussing Techmeme and artificial intelligence (Joe asked Marissa Mayer about it as [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fox. Joe Hunkins and I finally got to talk face-to-face, and spent our time discussing Techmeme and artificial intelligence (Joe asked Marissa Mayer about it as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cutts</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-51886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Cutts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Joe, just a quick comment: I went to undergrad at Kentucky, but it was my grad school at Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill that was more skeptical about artificial intelligence.

It was great talking to you in person! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe, just a quick comment: I went to undergrad at Kentucky, but it was my grad school at Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill that was more skeptical about artificial intelligence.</p>
<p>It was great talking to you in person! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-50340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dennis -

Note that her talk was about search issues, the iPhone which she adores, and Google&#039;s future:

http://www.toprankblog.com/2007/08/marissa-mayer/

After the talk I got to chat with her briefly about how search and AI will intersect in the coming years and was thrilled that she basically seems to agree with Kurzweil&#039;s estimates of &quot;about a decade&quot; until conscious computing.   I also spoke briefly with Jim Lanzone, ASK CEO, about this as well as Eytan Seidman of MS Search and Matt Cutts of Google search.  Matt was the most pessimistic though even he felt that we&#039;ll have conscious computing within about 45 years.  He also noted this is not his specialty.   I&#039;m still not sure how much optimism about AI is clouding people&#039;s estimates as it did back in the 70s, but I&#039;m thinking &quot;not much&quot;.   This is a new age for AI due to computational efficiencies and massive parallel processing and I&#039;m looking forward to HAL 9000 wannabes though I do recommend they give them a less sinister voice....   &quot;Dave, Dave?&quot;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dennis -</p>
<p>Note that her talk was about search issues, the iPhone which she adores, and Google&#8217;s future:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.toprankblog.com/2007/08/marissa-mayer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.toprankblog.com/2007/08/marissa-mayer/</a></p>
<p>After the talk I got to chat with her briefly about how search and AI will intersect in the coming years and was thrilled that she basically seems to agree with Kurzweil&#8217;s estimates of &#8220;about a decade&#8221; until conscious computing.   I also spoke briefly with Jim Lanzone, ASK CEO, about this as well as Eytan Seidman of MS Search and Matt Cutts of Google search.  Matt was the most pessimistic though even he felt that we&#8217;ll have conscious computing within about 45 years.  He also noted this is not his specialty.   I&#8217;m still not sure how much optimism about AI is clouding people&#8217;s estimates as it did back in the 70s, but I&#8217;m thinking &#8220;not much&#8221;.   This is a new age for AI due to computational efficiencies and massive parallel processing and I&#8217;m looking forward to HAL 9000 wannabes though I do recommend they give them a less sinister voice&#8230;.   &#8220;Dave, Dave?&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Gorelik</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2007/08/22/marissa-mayer-on-intersection-of-strong-ai-an-search/#comment-50239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Gorelik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you share the link to that Marissa Mayer&#039;s conversation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you share the link to that Marissa Mayer&#8217;s conversation?</p>
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