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		<title>By: Who’s Zooming Who? &#171; Don&#039;t Compromise!</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/15/ted-conference-or-bil-conference/#comment-120617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Who’s Zooming Who? &#171; Don&#039;t Compromise!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 15:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and I couldn’t help when the critical rebound might start. Of course, it already has – here, here and here, amongst other [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: BIL and TED&#8217;s excellent philosophical differences &#124; Words &#38; Tricks</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/15/ted-conference-or-bil-conference/#comment-74618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BIL and TED&#8217;s excellent philosophical differences &#124; Words &#38; Tricks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Duck, self described &#8220;Internet entrepreneur and online quack&#8221; wrote I’m still concerned that the TED and other expensive conference formats somehow create a lot of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: TED Conference non-attendee list publication proposal. &#171; Joe Duck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/15/ted-conference-or-bil-conference/#comment-74565</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TED Conference non-attendee list publication proposal. &#171; Joe Duck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] UNconference organizer Tyler Emerson over at the Singularity Institute reasonably challenged my criticism of TED, but I think I&#8217;m standing by it.    Until we find ways to fully integrate innovators, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UNconference organizer Tyler Emerson over at the Singularity Institute reasonably challenged my criticism of TED, but I think I&#8217;m standing by it.    Until we find ways to fully integrate innovators, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/15/ted-conference-or-bil-conference/#comment-74042</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; it’s unclear whether the opportunity cost of that effort would be favorable, and whether there’s a higher probability of the desired results coming from that effort, or from other efforts&lt;/i&gt;

Tyler this is an excellent point.  In fact my current working hypothesis is that the most logical approach to solving complex global problems is for humans to accelerate the development of conscious computing by redirecting more resources in that direction.  From where?  Wasteful military and climate hype spending, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> it’s unclear whether the opportunity cost of that effort would be favorable, and whether there’s a higher probability of the desired results coming from that effort, or from other efforts</i></p>
<p>Tyler this is an excellent point.  In fact my current working hypothesis is that the most logical approach to solving complex global problems is for humans to accelerate the development of conscious computing by redirecting more resources in that direction.  From where?  Wasteful military and climate hype spending, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: ted conference speakers &#124; Info trend it</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/15/ted-conference-or-bil-conference/#comment-74005</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tyleremerson</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/15/ted-conference-or-bil-conference/#comment-73988</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe: 

I think there&#039;s room for TED, Pop!Tech, Clinton Global Initiative, and World Economic Forum; and lots of room for more BILs. 

The best expression of your aim that I have seen is to &quot;have the most influential discussions about critical global issues take place on the global stage.&quot; I&#039;m in favor generally of greater awareness about big picture issues, particularly within the context of technology acceleration; but it&#039;s unclear what forms your aim might take, the steps involved, and the results envisioned. 

While the idea of giving a &quot;fair and reasonable voice to everybody with a stake&quot; is an attractive ideal on the surface, it&#039;s unclear whether the opportunity cost of that effort would be favorable, and whether there&#039;s a higher probability of the desired results coming from that effort, or from other efforts. 

Also, the tangible objectives need to be clarified. 

Best,
Tyler]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: </p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s room for TED, Pop!Tech, Clinton Global Initiative, and World Economic Forum; and lots of room for more BILs. </p>
<p>The best expression of your aim that I have seen is to &#8220;have the most influential discussions about critical global issues take place on the global stage.&#8221; I&#8217;m in favor generally of greater awareness about big picture issues, particularly within the context of technology acceleration; but it&#8217;s unclear what forms your aim might take, the steps involved, and the results envisioned. </p>
<p>While the idea of giving a &#8220;fair and reasonable voice to everybody with a stake&#8221; is an attractive ideal on the surface, it&#8217;s unclear whether the opportunity cost of that effort would be favorable, and whether there&#8217;s a higher probability of the desired results coming from that effort, or from other efforts. </p>
<p>Also, the tangible objectives need to be clarified. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Tyler</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyler if you think that was critical you *really* won&#039;t like my previous posts about TED:
http://joeduck.com/2006/02/25/114089424428453221/

I agree that TED has done some *excellent* work to create *theoretical* outreach and access for the 99.9% of the global population who can&#039;t afford to attend.  Also agree that they have made some *OK* efforts to give a voice to those who challenge many of the things most TED attendees hold dear (e.g. Lomborg&#039;s presentation about optimizing spending on global issues).

However I still think the defects of all groups that are wealth-centric (as well as poor-centric!) need to be discussed at much greater length.  Sure there are a few token poor people at TED, but unless I&#039;m missing the obvious here most of the attendees represent a tiny, yet extremely influential, segment of our society.   The middle class Soccer mom / Nascar dad sensibilities that effectively drive the US empire forward are largely missing here.

But, I&#039;m whining and not offering a solution, as Bil has partly done with a free unconference.  Of course barriers to entry for conferences are often travel as much as the cost of the event, and the barrier I&#039;m talking about is more along the lines of the fact that only a small demographic segment of folks go to these types of event.   

How do we give a fair and reasonable voice to everybody with a stake in the game - ie to every human on earth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler if you think that was critical you *really* won&#8217;t like my previous posts about TED:<br />
<a href="http://joeduck.com/2006/02/25/114089424428453221/" rel="nofollow">http://joeduck.com/2006/02/25/114089424428453221/</a></p>
<p>I agree that TED has done some *excellent* work to create *theoretical* outreach and access for the 99.9% of the global population who can&#8217;t afford to attend.  Also agree that they have made some *OK* efforts to give a voice to those who challenge many of the things most TED attendees hold dear (e.g. Lomborg&#8217;s presentation about optimizing spending on global issues).</p>
<p>However I still think the defects of all groups that are wealth-centric (as well as poor-centric!) need to be discussed at much greater length.  Sure there are a few token poor people at TED, but unless I&#8217;m missing the obvious here most of the attendees represent a tiny, yet extremely influential, segment of our society.   The middle class Soccer mom / Nascar dad sensibilities that effectively drive the US empire forward are largely missing here.</p>
<p>But, I&#8217;m whining and not offering a solution, as Bil has partly done with a free unconference.  Of course barriers to entry for conferences are often travel as much as the cost of the event, and the barrier I&#8217;m talking about is more along the lines of the fact that only a small demographic segment of folks go to these types of event.   </p>
<p>How do we give a fair and reasonable voice to everybody with a stake in the game &#8211; ie to every human on earth?</p>
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		<title>By: tyleremerson</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/15/ted-conference-or-bil-conference/#comment-73830</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a fair assessment of TED. They have opened up their conference through TEDTalks. Millions of people can now experience and share a large body of content. 

Also, keep in mind that the conference fees go back into The Sapling Foundation, the 501(c)(3) charitable foundation behind TED, which supports their general operations, including the TED Prize. I think Chris Anderson and their entire team have been doing exceptional work. That they are supportive of BIL is another testament to their character.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a fair assessment of TED. They have opened up their conference through TEDTalks. Millions of people can now experience and share a large body of content. </p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that the conference fees go back into The Sapling Foundation, the 501(c)(3) charitable foundation behind TED, which supports their general operations, including the TED Prize. I think Chris Anderson and their entire team have been doing exceptional work. That they are supportive of BIL is another testament to their character.</p>
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