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		<title>By: horatiox</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/17/engineerings-grand-challenges/#comment-76419</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Duck--

Have you read any of Howard Hayden&#039;s criticisms of AGW? Quite powerful stuff, and he doesn&#039;t pull any punches.

http://www.climatechangefraud.com/content/view/627/218/1/0/


&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;Hayden claimed that much of what is being advertised about global warming issues such as the melting polar ice caps, greenhouse gases and changes in carbon dioxide levels is not factual. 

&quot;Yes, the polar ice caps are shrinking . . . on Mars,&quot; he said, &quot;On Mars, the ice caps are melting and small hills are disappearing.&quot; 

Hayden added that there is warming occurring on Jupiter, Saturn and Triton. 

He said the increased carbon-dioxide levels that global-warming promoters keep talking about is nothing new. He said the levels of carbon dioxide have been rising and falling for more than 400,000 years. 

&quot;We are at the lowest levels in the last 300,000 years,&quot; he said. &quot;During the Jurassic period, we had very high levels of carbon dioxide.&quot; 

Hayden added that the majority of carbon dioxide is the result of natural sources and not to be blamed on humankind. 

Worldwide, the burning of coal, oil and gas contributes to only an estimated 3 percent of the carbon-dioxide emissions, he said. 

&quot;About 97 percent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere comes from natural sources, not humans,&quot; Hayden said.&quot;&quot;&quot;

Sort of shoots down the IPCC/Mann crew, Reverend Al (Gore not Sharpton), and Real Climate, and the wannabe-Real Climate types such as New Worlds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Duck&#8211;</p>
<p>Have you read any of Howard Hayden&#8217;s criticisms of AGW? Quite powerful stuff, and he doesn&#8217;t pull any punches.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climatechangefraud.com/content/view/627/218/1/0/" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatechangefraud.com/content/view/627/218/1/0/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;Hayden claimed that much of what is being advertised about global warming issues such as the melting polar ice caps, greenhouse gases and changes in carbon dioxide levels is not factual. </p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, the polar ice caps are shrinking . . . on Mars,&#8221; he said, &#8220;On Mars, the ice caps are melting and small hills are disappearing.&#8221; </p>
<p>Hayden added that there is warming occurring on Jupiter, Saturn and Triton. </p>
<p>He said the increased carbon-dioxide levels that global-warming promoters keep talking about is nothing new. He said the levels of carbon dioxide have been rising and falling for more than 400,000 years. </p>
<p>&#8220;We are at the lowest levels in the last 300,000 years,&#8221; he said. &#8220;During the Jurassic period, we had very high levels of carbon dioxide.&#8221; </p>
<p>Hayden added that the majority of carbon dioxide is the result of natural sources and not to be blamed on humankind. </p>
<p>Worldwide, the burning of coal, oil and gas contributes to only an estimated 3 percent of the carbon-dioxide emissions, he said. </p>
<p>&#8220;About 97 percent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere comes from natural sources, not humans,&#8221; Hayden said.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Sort of shoots down the IPCC/Mann crew, Reverend Al (Gore not Sharpton), and Real Climate, and the wannabe-Real Climate types such as New Worlds.</p>
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		<title>By: horatiox</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/17/engineerings-grand-challenges/#comment-74307</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Restore and improve urban infrastructure&lt;/i&gt; 

This might be as important a topic as any on the list.  After a few years spent in the LA commuter hells, paying out a large proportion of a salary merely for parking fees and gasoline---and one starts re-reading, say, Kropotkin if not Marx with admiration.  As with most engineering problems, however, there are all sorts of economic issues associated with rebuilding &quot;infrastructure&quot;: property for one.  One can be sure that the owners of LA or SF sky-rises don&#039;t read Kropotkin, or any sort of economic theory critical of finance capitalism: they most likely stick with the latest guide to maximizing profits, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Restore and improve urban infrastructure</i> </p>
<p>This might be as important a topic as any on the list.  After a few years spent in the LA commuter hells, paying out a large proportion of a salary merely for parking fees and gasoline&#8212;and one starts re-reading, say, Kropotkin if not Marx with admiration.  As with most engineering problems, however, there are all sorts of economic issues associated with rebuilding &#8220;infrastructure&#8221;: property for one.  One can be sure that the owners of LA or SF sky-rises don&#8217;t read Kropotkin, or any sort of economic theory critical of finance capitalism: they most likely stick with the latest guide to maximizing profits, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/17/engineerings-grand-challenges/#comment-74152</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;ll be interesting to see how those shake out.  There seems to be a lot of concensus about spending hundreds of billions and foregoing trillions in GDP to reduce CO2.  Frankly, if I could only do *one* thing for the earth I think it would be to get all that spending to go towards the other goals, which are mostly attainable and far, far less expensive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how those shake out.  There seems to be a lot of concensus about spending hundreds of billions and foregoing trillions in GDP to reduce CO2.  Frankly, if I could only do *one* thing for the earth I think it would be to get all that spending to go towards the other goals, which are mostly attainable and far, far less expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: horatiox</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/17/engineerings-grand-challenges/#comment-74092</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah it&#039;s cool: going other direction! LO siento. If they miss, the rogue-sat&#039;s headed to Australia. No biggy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah it&#8217;s cool: going other direction! LO siento. If they miss, the rogue-sat&#8217;s headed to Australia. No biggy.</p>
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		<title>By: horatiox</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/17/engineerings-grand-challenges/#comment-74090</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting list. 

&lt;i&gt;Provide access to clean water&lt;/i&gt; 

Or, just provide water. Water supplies are already limited. A serious drought in So Cal (and Vegass) could really ruin the par-tay.


Reverse-engineer the brain 

Yes. When that wireless adapter can be jacked into your own cognitive interface like right behind and ear, we&#039;ll be way on the way to the Singularity. 


&lt;i&gt;Prevent nuclear terror&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, and maybe have the US Govt. upgrade their satellites: let&#039;s hope by this time manana the Navy boys shoot down the one headed for Western USA (though might land in Mexico, if not shot down).  Ay carumba]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting list. </p>
<p><i>Provide access to clean water</i> </p>
<p>Or, just provide water. Water supplies are already limited. A serious drought in So Cal (and Vegass) could really ruin the par-tay.</p>
<p>Reverse-engineer the brain </p>
<p>Yes. When that wireless adapter can be jacked into your own cognitive interface like right behind and ear, we&#8217;ll be way on the way to the Singularity. </p>
<p><i>Prevent nuclear terror</i></p>
<p>Yes, and maybe have the US Govt. upgrade their satellites: let&#8217;s hope by this time manana the Navy boys shoot down the one headed for Western USA (though might land in Mexico, if not shot down).  Ay carumba</p>
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		<title>By: Fools Gold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/02/17/engineerings-grand-challenges/#comment-73991</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;reverse engineering of the brain will lead to ...
As we learn more about the brain, artificial neural networks improve as we add to them spikes and other biological phenomenon.
&gt;huge military technologies of questionable effectiveness.
questionable goals lead to that questionable effectiveness.

&gt;Make solar energy economical 
Its already rather economical for a blade of grass, algae, etc.
&gt;Provide access to clean water 
Who made it dirty in the first place?

&gt;Restore and improve urban infrastructure 
Why? In some areas of the USA even the immigrants are fleeing the urban areas. 
&gt;Advance health informatics 
One woman died because her personalized electronic health record listed the MRIs in chronological order rather than reverse chronological order. So much for medical informatics. Health care industry is a bloated morass of conflicted goals. Streamlining the paperwork won&#039;t help.

&gt;Engineer better medicines 
Most drug discovery is not designed to be &#039;better&#039; at all, just profitable which often means &#039;me too&#039;ism in the research and manufacture. 
&gt;Advance personalized learning 
Yeah, thats really good as a goal. Fire all the teachers. Thats the best advancement of personalized learning there could ever be!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;reverse engineering of the brain will lead to &#8230;<br />
As we learn more about the brain, artificial neural networks improve as we add to them spikes and other biological phenomenon.<br />
&gt;huge military technologies of questionable effectiveness.<br />
questionable goals lead to that questionable effectiveness.</p>
<p>&gt;Make solar energy economical<br />
Its already rather economical for a blade of grass, algae, etc.<br />
&gt;Provide access to clean water<br />
Who made it dirty in the first place?</p>
<p>&gt;Restore and improve urban infrastructure<br />
Why? In some areas of the USA even the immigrants are fleeing the urban areas.<br />
&gt;Advance health informatics<br />
One woman died because her personalized electronic health record listed the MRIs in chronological order rather than reverse chronological order. So much for medical informatics. Health care industry is a bloated morass of conflicted goals. Streamlining the paperwork won&#8217;t help.</p>
<p>&gt;Engineer better medicines<br />
Most drug discovery is not designed to be &#8216;better&#8217; at all, just profitable which often means &#8216;me too&#8217;ism in the research and manufacture.<br />
&gt;Advance personalized learning<br />
Yeah, thats really good as a goal. Fire all the teachers. Thats the best advancement of personalized learning there could ever be!</p>
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