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	<title>Comments on: Why does online chat support almost always fail to solve the problem?   And take so long?   And generally just suck?</title>
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		<title>By: sandra</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-75697</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I THINK IT IS A BIG WASTE OF TIME TO USE CHAT LINES BECAUSE THEY DON&#039;T KNOW AS MUCH AS WE DO OURSELVES.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I THINK IT IS A BIG WASTE OF TIME TO USE CHAT LINES BECAUSE THEY DON&#8217;T KNOW AS MUCH AS WE DO OURSELVES.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramona and Jenn &#171; Joe Duck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ramona and Jenn &#171; Joe Duck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and&#160;Jenn Earlier here at Joe Duck there was a discussion about &#8220;chat bots&#8221; and how they differ from humans.  I reproduced my exchange with Palm&#8217;s support [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and&nbsp;Jenn Earlier here at Joe Duck there was a discussion about &#8220;chat bots&#8221; and how they differ from humans.  I reproduced my exchange with Palm&#8217;s support [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74838</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Wouldn’t a bot misspell the word too if it was a poorly engineered one?&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe, but this brings up an interesting aspect of machine &quot;intelligence&quot; that I think has very profound implications for the long haul  Unlike a human, the bot will only need ONE correction of a grammer mistake and then it&#039;ll be correct for the next 1000 years.   When the machine is capable of &quot;recursive self improvement&quot; it&#039;ll be able to study grammer and fix itself.

Why hasn&#039;t this happened yet?  Because programming that level of activity is a lot easier for me to talk about than for guys like Tommo to actually do!   But get cracking Mr. T cuz we need them thinkin&#039; puters ASAP!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wouldn’t a bot misspell the word too if it was a poorly engineered one?</i></p>
<p>Maybe, but this brings up an interesting aspect of machine &#8220;intelligence&#8221; that I think has very profound implications for the long haul  Unlike a human, the bot will only need ONE correction of a grammer mistake and then it&#8217;ll be correct for the next 1000 years.   When the machine is capable of &#8220;recursive self improvement&#8221; it&#8217;ll be able to study grammer and fix itself.</p>
<p>Why hasn&#8217;t this happened yet?  Because programming that level of activity is a lot easier for me to talk about than for guys like Tommo to actually do!   But get cracking Mr. T cuz we need them thinkin&#8217; puters ASAP!</p>
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		<title>By: Tommo</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the main reason it doesn&#039;t look like a bot to me is b/c it doesn&#039;t look like the bots I programmed :)

It&#039;s certainly true that a bot with an ungrammatical repertoire will produce ungrammatical output.  I presume that QA would weed that out at a place like Palm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the main reason it doesn&#8217;t look like a bot to me is b/c it doesn&#8217;t look like the bots I programmed <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly true that a bot with an ungrammatical repertoire will produce ungrammatical output.  I presume that QA would weed that out at a place like Palm.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FoolsGold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its odd perhaps how we view this transcript. And can accept the existence of a person at the other end of the phone line whose performance is disappointing but are less inclined to accept the existence of a &#039;bot&#039; at the other end of the line, particularly a bot that is a poor performing one. Why is it that we expect a bot to be &quot;better&quot;? Perhaps its not yet learned it job and its knowledge base is low?

Grammar? Does Joe&#039;s use of the word &#039;grammer&#039; prove he is human? Wouldn&#039;t a bot misspell the word too if it was a poorly engineered one? Is quality of the interaction the test for human versus bot? 

Irrespective of whether this particular transcript is that of a human or an artificial intelligence program, I wonder why people prefer to deal with a voice rather than with displayed text? One airline company yanked out an automated lost-baggage system and put in a human being who performed less well but sure dealt with frustrated travellers better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its odd perhaps how we view this transcript. And can accept the existence of a person at the other end of the phone line whose performance is disappointing but are less inclined to accept the existence of a &#8216;bot&#8217; at the other end of the line, particularly a bot that is a poor performing one. Why is it that we expect a bot to be &#8220;better&#8221;? Perhaps its not yet learned it job and its knowledge base is low?</p>
<p>Grammar? Does Joe&#8217;s use of the word &#8216;grammer&#8217; prove he is human? Wouldn&#8217;t a bot misspell the word too if it was a poorly engineered one? Is quality of the interaction the test for human versus bot? </p>
<p>Irrespective of whether this particular transcript is that of a human or an artificial intelligence program, I wonder why people prefer to deal with a voice rather than with displayed text? One airline company yanked out an automated lost-baggage system and put in a human being who performed less well but sure dealt with frustrated travellers better.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74705</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it were a bot, I&#039;d expect see things like &quot;You want to go to China? Why would you like to go to China?&quot; ;)

Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist. I&#039;ve had equivalent bad experience both on the phone and via chat. On the one hand, phone *tends* to give you the same answer but faster - on the other hand during a chat it&#039;s much easier to be doing other stuff and checking the screen every now and again. I think I pretty much agree, most of the time I prefer using the phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were a bot, I&#8217;d expect see things like &#8220;You want to go to China? Why would you like to go to China?&#8221; <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist. I&#8217;ve had equivalent bad experience both on the phone and via chat. On the one hand, phone *tends* to give you the same answer but faster &#8211; on the other hand during a chat it&#8217;s much easier to be doing other stuff and checking the screen every now and again. I think I pretty much agree, most of the time I prefer using the phone.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FG what you see is the entire exchange - now you&#039;ve got me curious.  Silas certainly sounds like a MACHINE, and one from a dystopian futureworld to boot! 

But I agree with Tommo that we&#039;d actually see better grammer and more logical interaction with a machine session.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FG what you see is the entire exchange &#8211; now you&#8217;ve got me curious.  Silas certainly sounds like a MACHINE, and one from a dystopian futureworld to boot! </p>
<p>But I agree with Tommo that we&#8217;d actually see better grammer and more logical interaction with a machine session.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommo</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it were a bot, I&#039;d think it&#039;d have better grammar, and I&#039;d expect to see a search tree in action, or at least some entertaining nonsense :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were a bot, I&#8217;d think it&#8217;d have better grammar, and I&#8217;d expect to see a search tree in action, or at least some entertaining nonsense <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74667</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FoolsGold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;ve re-read the transcript and still think that it sounds like a chat session with an artificial intelligence program, not a live person, but since you were the one who actually experienced this chat session, you probably know best.

I have found that chat help people tend to seize upon the most commonly encountered reasons right away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve re-read the transcript and still think that it sounds like a chat session with an artificial intelligence program, not a live person, but since you were the one who actually experienced this chat session, you probably know best.</p>
<p>I have found that chat help people tend to seize upon the most commonly encountered reasons right away.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/03/02/why-online-chat-support-usually-fails/#comment-74648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes a transcript but I think Silas was a real person.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes a transcript but I think Silas was a real person.</p>
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