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	<title>Comments on: Venture Capitalists:  Not Gangsters, but Gamblers</title>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/06/25/venture-capitalists-not-gangsters-but-gamblers/#comment-77063</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Horatiox I think you have done an excellent job of describing how the tech biz is a kind of oligarchy, where wealth begets insiders and then insiders groom each other.

However I&#039;m noting that rigged or not most VCs, on average, are losing money.  Money flow is negative in startups based on my limited research, so this is probably a good thing in that although Joe Sixpack is deprived of the chance to hit a home run with an insider play he&#039;s also unlikely to have a chance to lose money betting on startups, most of which will fail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horatiox I think you have done an excellent job of describing how the tech biz is a kind of oligarchy, where wealth begets insiders and then insiders groom each other.</p>
<p>However I&#8217;m noting that rigged or not most VCs, on average, are losing money.  Money flow is negative in startups based on my limited research, so this is probably a good thing in that although Joe Sixpack is deprived of the chance to hit a home run with an insider play he&#8217;s also unlikely to have a chance to lose money betting on startups, most of which will fail.</p>
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		<title>By: horatiox</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/06/25/venture-capitalists-not-gangsters-but-gamblers/#comment-77061</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The game is certainly not “rigged” the way many think it is and my working hypothesis is that VC for startups is sort of like Arabian horse farms - it loses money for most but is a very fun hobby for many who effectively build relationships and contacts that help maintain their wealth and control over things indirectly.&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting observation, yet I tend to disagree, while granting that proving the &quot;game is rigged&quot; (or to what degree the game is rigged) would require a great deal of legwork.  Google, for example, shows how the modern technological corporation takes shape. It&#039;s started by two bright-boys attending stanford U. Steinford may not be the headquarters for La Cosa Nostra, but few would deny that a sort of country club atmosphere exists in Palo Alto (at least west--east P.A. is now ghetto, baybe), which caters to the well-to-do. 

A few kids from the wrong side of the tracks get in to Stanferd, or UCs, Ivy League, etc, but I suspect if you did a bit of research you would find that most of the dweebs (or dweebettes) entering Stanferd U and top-level schools were from wealthy, or at least upper-middle class families. 

The corps seem to feed off of, and grow out of the top-level universities.  At the very least, Page and Brin happen to be in the right place at the right time. Many high-powered scientists and programming people work and live around Stanford (and Silicon Valley of course), AND there is capital: industry and business needs its propeller-heads as much as it did when Carnegie made use of engineering advances in the processing of iron and steel to establish US Steel.   

It&#039;s not like Googles (or yahoos, or microsofts) begin in Joel Turnipseed&#039;s garage in his home in Reno. Bill Gates himself comes from Harvard: old money, then.   So while granting it&#039;s not mafia in the sense of AL Caponay, they do take shape in a certain intellectual--and financial-- context which some cynics might term a racket, or following Galbraith, an oligarchy of some sort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The game is certainly not “rigged” the way many think it is and my working hypothesis is that VC for startups is sort of like Arabian horse farms &#8211; it loses money for most but is a very fun hobby for many who effectively build relationships and contacts that help maintain their wealth and control over things indirectly.</i></p>
<p>Interesting observation, yet I tend to disagree, while granting that proving the &#8220;game is rigged&#8221; (or to what degree the game is rigged) would require a great deal of legwork.  Google, for example, shows how the modern technological corporation takes shape. It&#8217;s started by two bright-boys attending stanford U. Steinford may not be the headquarters for La Cosa Nostra, but few would deny that a sort of country club atmosphere exists in Palo Alto (at least west&#8211;east P.A. is now ghetto, baybe), which caters to the well-to-do. </p>
<p>A few kids from the wrong side of the tracks get in to Stanferd, or UCs, Ivy League, etc, but I suspect if you did a bit of research you would find that most of the dweebs (or dweebettes) entering Stanferd U and top-level schools were from wealthy, or at least upper-middle class families. </p>
<p>The corps seem to feed off of, and grow out of the top-level universities.  At the very least, Page and Brin happen to be in the right place at the right time. Many high-powered scientists and programming people work and live around Stanford (and Silicon Valley of course), AND there is capital: industry and business needs its propeller-heads as much as it did when Carnegie made use of engineering advances in the processing of iron and steel to establish US Steel.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like Googles (or yahoos, or microsofts) begin in Joel Turnipseed&#8217;s garage in his home in Reno. Bill Gates himself comes from Harvard: old money, then.   So while granting it&#8217;s not mafia in the sense of AL Caponay, they do take shape in a certain intellectual&#8211;and financial&#8211; context which some cynics might term a racket, or following Galbraith, an oligarchy of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Burell</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2008/06/25/venture-capitalists-not-gangsters-but-gamblers/#comment-77025</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Joe,

Sorry to post this non sequitur comment here, but found no contact link.  Please see your Flickr messages about my attempts to help a couple of good Korean high school kids find a suitable homestay situation in Medford.

Thanks much,

Clay]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,</p>
<p>Sorry to post this non sequitur comment here, but found no contact link.  Please see your Flickr messages about my attempts to help a couple of good Korean high school kids find a suitable homestay situation in Medford.</p>
<p>Thanks much,</p>
<p>Clay</p>
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