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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/01/02/the-best-2008-investment-advice-was-to-stuff-all-of-your-money-into-your-mattress/#comment-119165</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may be one thing to &quot;stuff your mattress,&quot; but by taking at least a small risk with one&#039;s capital, the dividends may be worth it:  Especially if the savings are going into retirement.  Thanks for the post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be one thing to &#8220;stuff your mattress,&#8221; but by taking at least a small risk with one&#8217;s capital, the dividends may be worth it:  Especially if the savings are going into retirement.  Thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 06:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi all,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi all,<br />
great web site cool article,<br />
i like your article<br />
thanks for view this article.<br />
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Jeff,<br />
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		<title>By: Tim Better</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Better]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think some of the problem in getting correct advice is finding the right advisor!!! If you do not get on with the expert that is advising you, and they don&#039;t understand your needs, then that won&#039;t work. That&#039;s why that I feel that there is such an issue with people using banks or the internet looking for advice on money. Face to face in my view should be the only way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of the problem in getting correct advice is finding the right advisor!!! If you do not get on with the expert that is advising you, and they don&#8217;t understand your needs, then that won&#8217;t work. That&#8217;s why that I feel that there is such an issue with people using banks or the internet looking for advice on money. Face to face in my view should be the only way.</p>
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		<title>By: Portfolio Management</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Portfolio Management]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Post. I am Sick of this Post

Actually, I agree some of the views of the author and some not.


Thanks
Raushan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post. I am Sick of this Post</p>
<p>Actually, I agree some of the views of the author and some not.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Raushan</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Rules change&lt;/i&gt;

Yes indeed!   My beef with the current situation is not so much that we&#039;ve had the usual suspects on steroids: Greed, Bad Govt, Bad Advice, etc...  What is frustrating me is that there will be very little accountability for all that.  Although investors will say they&#039;ll be more cautious and pundits will say they are humbled that won&#039;t last long and we could be off to the races again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Rules change</i></p>
<p>Yes indeed!   My beef with the current situation is not so much that we&#8217;ve had the usual suspects on steroids: Greed, Bad Govt, Bad Advice, etc&#8230;  What is frustrating me is that there will be very little accountability for all that.  Although investors will say they&#8217;ll be more cautious and pundits will say they are humbled that won&#8217;t last long and we could be off to the races again.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FoolsGold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rules changed... ??
Well the rules changed in a great many fields.
Think back to all those IPOs that initial climbs of a few hundred percent. That would have been a disgrace for an investment banker a generation ago.

Think of the &quot;generate a mortgage, package it and sell it&quot; industry that replaced the older style &quot;a mortgage is an asset to be held locally&quot; paradigm. Giving mortgages to a sporadically employed lawncare worker never made sense if one took a long term view, but once the industry shifted to collateralizing such mortgages by packaging them and shipping them off to less-alert buyers, the granting of a mortgage became a profitable game.

Hedge Funds: Give us lots of money and we will do something with it but won&#039;t really tell you what it is and perhaps all we will do is invest in other hedge funds ... well, something like that would never fly a generation ago.

Leveraged Buy Outs: We buy the company then we sell off some of its various parts and use that money to pay off our loan? Thats like buying a car and then trying to pay for it by selling the wheels and the engine. 

Rules change. And constant vigilance is required just for that reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rules changed&#8230; ??<br />
Well the rules changed in a great many fields.<br />
Think back to all those IPOs that initial climbs of a few hundred percent. That would have been a disgrace for an investment banker a generation ago.</p>
<p>Think of the &#8220;generate a mortgage, package it and sell it&#8221; industry that replaced the older style &#8220;a mortgage is an asset to be held locally&#8221; paradigm. Giving mortgages to a sporadically employed lawncare worker never made sense if one took a long term view, but once the industry shifted to collateralizing such mortgages by packaging them and shipping them off to less-alert buyers, the granting of a mortgage became a profitable game.</p>
<p>Hedge Funds: Give us lots of money and we will do something with it but won&#8217;t really tell you what it is and perhaps all we will do is invest in other hedge funds &#8230; well, something like that would never fly a generation ago.</p>
<p>Leveraged Buy Outs: We buy the company then we sell off some of its various parts and use that money to pay off our loan? Thats like buying a car and then trying to pay for it by selling the wheels and the engine. </p>
<p>Rules change. And constant vigilance is required just for that reason.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FoolsGold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t win if you don&#039;t play the game.

Mattress stuffers will never lose... but they will never win either! 

The &quot;meltdown&quot; seems to have had some aspects reminiscent of the famed Tulip Mania wherein tulip trading made fortunes but the tulip bubble eventually burst, as most bubbles do! Comparisons between the annual income of a skilled tradesman and a tulip broker are probably somewhat similar to the comparisons of today between a &quot;bricks and mortar&quot; business and some over-hyped Social Network Search Optimized Marketing start-up.

Madoff Mania? Well, he was saying give me your money and I won&#039;t tell you what I&#039;m going to do with it, I&#039;ll just return a profit of ten percent on it. Well, take away the reputation and social connections and you&#039;ve got an obvious con man! It wouldn&#039;t fly in Peoria... so how did all those Palm Beach types get fooled? Adding six zeroes to the dollar amount involved doesn&#039;t change the nature of the con.
Some ultra hip party in Palm Beach is no different than a street corner in the ghetto: In God We Trust, All Others We Audit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t win if you don&#8217;t play the game.</p>
<p>Mattress stuffers will never lose&#8230; but they will never win either! </p>
<p>The &#8220;meltdown&#8221; seems to have had some aspects reminiscent of the famed Tulip Mania wherein tulip trading made fortunes but the tulip bubble eventually burst, as most bubbles do! Comparisons between the annual income of a skilled tradesman and a tulip broker are probably somewhat similar to the comparisons of today between a &#8220;bricks and mortar&#8221; business and some over-hyped Social Network Search Optimized Marketing start-up.</p>
<p>Madoff Mania? Well, he was saying give me your money and I won&#8217;t tell you what I&#8217;m going to do with it, I&#8217;ll just return a profit of ten percent on it. Well, take away the reputation and social connections and you&#8217;ve got an obvious con man! It wouldn&#8217;t fly in Peoria&#8230; so how did all those Palm Beach types get fooled? Adding six zeroes to the dollar amount involved doesn&#8217;t change the nature of the con.<br />
Some ultra hip party in Palm Beach is no different than a street corner in the ghetto: In God We Trust, All Others We Audit.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thx Paul, all good points.   I do think many of the old rules may have to be revised however.   People who were unlucky enough to come into the stock market and buy their home in the past 5 years or so may not recover their investment costs for a decade.   That ... has got to hurt and makes me glad I&#039;m old enough to have paid ... less for most of my stuff than it&#039;s currently worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx Paul, all good points.   I do think many of the old rules may have to be revised however.   People who were unlucky enough to come into the stock market and buy their home in the past 5 years or so may not recover their investment costs for a decade.   That &#8230; has got to hurt and makes me glad I&#8217;m old enough to have paid &#8230; less for most of my stuff than it&#8217;s currently worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As one of the many humbled pros who did not see this coming (but who was concerned about many of the issues that contributed to it), I think it is important to keep a few things in mind:
-Market meltdowns of this magnitude, while not unheard of, are exceptionally rare. What caught so many off-guard was this one came so quickly on the heels of the 2000-02 Bear, a debilitating decline of comparable size.
-Like the manic bubbles that preceded it, this devastating drop occurred when numerous events came together in just the right way at just the right time to create a panic of epic proportions.
This event will influence investor behavior for many years - if not decades - to come, but in many ways, that could be a good thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the many humbled pros who did not see this coming (but who was concerned about many of the issues that contributed to it), I think it is important to keep a few things in mind:<br />
-Market meltdowns of this magnitude, while not unheard of, are exceptionally rare. What caught so many off-guard was this one came so quickly on the heels of the 2000-02 Bear, a debilitating decline of comparable size.<br />
-Like the manic bubbles that preceded it, this devastating drop occurred when numerous events came together in just the right way at just the right time to create a panic of epic proportions.<br />
This event will influence investor behavior for many years &#8211; if not decades &#8211; to come, but in many ways, that could be a good thing.</p>
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