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	<title>Comments on: Fossett Crash Likely Caused by Downdrafts</title>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/07/09/fossett-crash-likely-caused-by-wind/#comment-99290</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note: It really should also be borne in mind that the vast majority of the search expenses were privately handled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note: It really should also be borne in mind that the vast majority of the search expenses were privately handled.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/07/09/fossett-crash-likely-caused-by-wind/#comment-98636</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&quot;...If we announced “no rescues in this area” it’s even possible we’d have fewer deaths because people would not assume as they do now that there will be rescuers...&quot;

That policy didn&#039;t seem to work too well as Katrina approached New Orleans. Where would you post the signs about no rescue... on the roadsign the Kim&#039;s missed? 
Is posting a &#039;no rescue&#039; sign better than posting a &#039;This way to the coast; this way to Oblivion and Desolation&#039; sign.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;&#8230;If we announced “no rescues in this area” it’s even possible we’d have fewer deaths because people would not assume as they do now that there will be rescuers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That policy didn&#8217;t seem to work too well as Katrina approached New Orleans. Where would you post the signs about no rescue&#8230; on the roadsign the Kim&#8217;s missed?<br />
Is posting a &#8216;no rescue&#8217; sign better than posting a &#8216;This way to the coast; this way to Oblivion and Desolation&#8217; sign.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is always a tradeoff. In rural areas where tourism is a big money-maker, try instituting a no-search policy. The merchants know their tills will soon be empty. 

Its difficult when you have an impaired patient who is wearing neither a bracelet nor a beeper. Its difficult when you have skilled people who nevertheless need rescue. Its difficult when you have a clearly assumed risk. Most snowmobilers intentionally challenge a snow covered slope and then get into trouble when they find they can&#039;t outrun the avalance. 

Fosset was an exceptionally skilled pilot with good glider training so he probably had very good knowledge of mountain flying and of his plane&#039;s capabilities.

There is always a risk to searchers. Technology helps to diminish that risk, but life is not a cacoon and funds are not unlimited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always a tradeoff. In rural areas where tourism is a big money-maker, try instituting a no-search policy. The merchants know their tills will soon be empty. </p>
<p>Its difficult when you have an impaired patient who is wearing neither a bracelet nor a beeper. Its difficult when you have skilled people who nevertheless need rescue. Its difficult when you have a clearly assumed risk. Most snowmobilers intentionally challenge a snow covered slope and then get into trouble when they find they can&#8217;t outrun the avalance. </p>
<p>Fosset was an exceptionally skilled pilot with good glider training so he probably had very good knowledge of mountain flying and of his plane&#8217;s capabilities.</p>
<p>There is always a risk to searchers. Technology helps to diminish that risk, but life is not a cacoon and funds are not unlimited.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/07/09/fossett-crash-likely-caused-by-wind/#comment-98514</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting FoolsGold.   

Partly for the reasons you state I&#039;m even starting to wonder about the human/money ROI on SAR in general.   When the Kims and their adorable children were stranded in the Oregon Wilderness it was easy to make a case that we should spare no expense and even a lot of human risk to find them.   However that case weakens when you are looking for adventurers who know and enjoy the risks they take, let alone looking for a boozed up guy out poaching deer. 

If we announced &quot;no rescues in this area&quot; it&#039;s even possible we&#039;d have fewer deaths because people would not assume as they do now that there will be rescuers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting FoolsGold.   </p>
<p>Partly for the reasons you state I&#8217;m even starting to wonder about the human/money ROI on SAR in general.   When the Kims and their adorable children were stranded in the Oregon Wilderness it was easy to make a case that we should spare no expense and even a lot of human risk to find them.   However that case weakens when you are looking for adventurers who know and enjoy the risks they take, let alone looking for a boozed up guy out poaching deer. </p>
<p>If we announced &#8220;no rescues in this area&#8221; it&#8217;s even possible we&#8217;d have fewer deaths because people would not assume as they do now that there will be rescuers.</p>
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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/07/09/fossett-crash-likely-caused-by-wind/#comment-98512</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unaddressed in the report were the reasons for the delay in verifying the time of the call with the telephone company. Excessive reliance on the ranchhand&#039;s recollection diverted search resources, both official and private.

Also unaddressed is the pilot&#039;s skill level and knowledge about mountain flying in general and recovery from downdrafts in areas of rising terrain at or near the aircraft&#039;s service ceiling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unaddressed in the report were the reasons for the delay in verifying the time of the call with the telephone company. Excessive reliance on the ranchhand&#8217;s recollection diverted search resources, both official and private.</p>
<p>Also unaddressed is the pilot&#8217;s skill level and knowledge about mountain flying in general and recovery from downdrafts in areas of rising terrain at or near the aircraft&#8217;s service ceiling.</p>
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