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		<title>By: glenn</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: horatiox</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103508</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chairman Bill&#039;s just the front, Duck. GMO&#039;s are part of a techno-corporate-industrialist plot, led by the David Rockefeller, and Illuminati operatives (aka &lt;i&gt;shapeshifters&lt;/i&gt;). 
The effects of the GMO are not immediately known--but after a few years of eating that super-hybrid-corn, mondo-tomatoes, or bread containing the  time-released viral-enzymes, the effects ... manifest themselves. Soon, the scales appear on the skin. Gill-like appendages emerge on the neck; fingers sprout long claws instead of nails.  The eyes turn....reptilian.  And then, one day Jr. wakes up as a..... SHAPESHIFTER.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chairman Bill&#8217;s just the front, Duck. GMO&#8217;s are part of a techno-corporate-industrialist plot, led by the David Rockefeller, and Illuminati operatives (aka <i>shapeshifters</i>).<br />
The effects of the GMO are not immediately known&#8211;but after a few years of eating that super-hybrid-corn, mondo-tomatoes, or bread containing the  time-released viral-enzymes, the effects &#8230; manifest themselves. Soon, the scales appear on the skin. Gill-like appendages emerge on the neck; fingers sprout long claws instead of nails.  The eyes turn&#8230;.reptilian.  And then, one day Jr. wakes up as a&#8230;.. SHAPESHIFTER.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/business/20crop.html?_r=1 That&#039;s DAIRY FARMER sorry i type 4 words per min.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/business/20crop.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/business/20crop.html?_r=1</a> That&#8217;s DAIRY FARMER sorry i type 4 words per min.</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete from what I have heard it costs about 500k just to settle with them.

This kind of stuff really drives me nuts and no one wonders in this country what is happening to our farmers and what that is going to mean in the future for our own control of our food supply.

All this globalization is immensley naive there are just too many bad people in power and in the UN to ever make it right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete from what I have heard it costs about 500k just to settle with them.</p>
<p>This kind of stuff really drives me nuts and no one wonders in this country what is happening to our farmers and what that is going to mean in the future for our own control of our food supply.</p>
<p>All this globalization is immensley naive there are just too many bad people in power and in the UN to ever make it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103480</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.i-sis.org.uk/BtCottonKillsSoilandFarmers.php     It has been vary well hid but there is a lot more problems  with GMO&#039;S than the general public will ever know. I have been a diary farmer all my life and I seen things happen when I feed gmo&#039;s I had never seen before!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.i-sis.org.uk/BtCottonKillsSoilandFarmers.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.i-sis.org.uk/BtCottonKillsSoilandFarmers.php</a>     It has been vary well hid but there is a lot more problems  with GMO&#8217;S than the general public will ever know. I have been a diary farmer all my life and I seen things happen when I feed gmo&#8217;s I had never seen before!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we need to improve our ability to grow food, etc...through whatever safe science means available including GMO.

However we have to be more careful the impacts of efficiency downline including the feeding beeves GMO corn and accidentally increasing the amount of naturally occurring ecoli because cows don&#039;t digest corn very well, they are much better at digesting grass but we continue the process with corn because it is cheaper to produce as a result of the process.

The other impact is what is happening to the American farmer because of the horrible business practices of companies that are basically forcing a monopoly with their patent enforcement and they are being artificially protected by the government.

One side note...the coalescing of the meat packing industry has had some definite affects on the overall quality of our beef supply in this country - this is a good example of where an efficiency hasn&#039;t necessarly lead to a better or safer product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to improve our ability to grow food, etc&#8230;through whatever safe science means available including GMO.</p>
<p>However we have to be more careful the impacts of efficiency downline including the feeding beeves GMO corn and accidentally increasing the amount of naturally occurring ecoli because cows don&#8217;t digest corn very well, they are much better at digesting grass but we continue the process with corn because it is cheaper to produce as a result of the process.</p>
<p>The other impact is what is happening to the American farmer because of the horrible business practices of companies that are basically forcing a monopoly with their patent enforcement and they are being artificially protected by the government.</p>
<p>One side note&#8230;the coalescing of the meat packing industry has had some definite affects on the overall quality of our beef supply in this country &#8211; this is a good example of where an efficiency hasn&#8217;t necessarly lead to a better or safer product.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Summary of GMO Controversies.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies

Millions of people have eaten them (including YOU) with no adverse health effects.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Summary of GMO Controversies.  </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies</a></p>
<p>Millions of people have eaten them (including YOU) with no adverse health effects.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103468</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeDuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;their agenda of murdering millions&lt;/i&gt; 

Huh? NO.  Misguided isn&#039;t murderous!  Sheesh.

The issues of patents, seed recycling, farmer control are important but I see them as a separate debate.   

Question 1.  Do we encourage the development of drought resistance and other genetically advantageous crop characteristics?    OF COURSE WE DO.   We&#039;ve been doing this for thousands of years at a slow pace.  Gene splicing lets us accelerate the process.  Sure there are a handful of risks but the advantages are potentially huge and risks fairly low.  Note that GMOs have been around for decades and the silly concerns that we&#039;d have global epidemics of weird GMO problems have NOT materialized.   This debate began back in my botany days at UW Madison.   Even if you think we should &quot;ban GMOs&quot; it&#039;s not going to happen, so the only relevant issue is how we move forward with them.

2. Corporate controls and marketing.  Agree with some concerns here and I am NOT a fan of the way companies often use marketing and patents to manipulate and control farming and food practices, and agree this is an area where governments (or better yet, farmer or consumer groups) should play a powerful role protecting the public interests.   Gates is doing that by adjusting the patent process so it does not get in the way of distribution of drought resistant corn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>their agenda of murdering millions</i> </p>
<p>Huh? NO.  Misguided isn&#8217;t murderous!  Sheesh.</p>
<p>The issues of patents, seed recycling, farmer control are important but I see them as a separate debate.   </p>
<p>Question 1.  Do we encourage the development of drought resistance and other genetically advantageous crop characteristics?    OF COURSE WE DO.   We&#8217;ve been doing this for thousands of years at a slow pace.  Gene splicing lets us accelerate the process.  Sure there are a handful of risks but the advantages are potentially huge and risks fairly low.  Note that GMOs have been around for decades and the silly concerns that we&#8217;d have global epidemics of weird GMO problems have NOT materialized.   This debate began back in my botany days at UW Madison.   Even if you think we should &#8220;ban GMOs&#8221; it&#8217;s not going to happen, so the only relevant issue is how we move forward with them.</p>
<p>2. Corporate controls and marketing.  Agree with some concerns here and I am NOT a fan of the way companies often use marketing and patents to manipulate and control farming and food practices, and agree this is an area where governments (or better yet, farmer or consumer groups) should play a powerful role protecting the public interests.   Gates is doing that by adjusting the patent process so it does not get in the way of distribution of drought resistant corn.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glenn                                                            That is why I stopped saving my own seed!NO farmer can afford to fight them, big or small they will try bankrupt them all!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn                                                            That is why I stopped saving my own seed!NO farmer can afford to fight them, big or small they will try bankrupt them all!!!</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/2009/10/20/misguided-environmentalism-dont-let-it-happen-to-you/#comment-103464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete,

Isn&#039;t it nearly impossible to save and clean your own seed now?  What happens to a farmer that tries to do that?

Monsanto takes them to court bankrupts them. Right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it nearly impossible to save and clean your own seed now?  What happens to a farmer that tries to do that?</p>
<p>Monsanto takes them to court bankrupts them. Right?</p>
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