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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post, useful information!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Golden Triangle India</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/china-travel/#comment-99638</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice Post.. Useful info regarding Power Adapters]]></description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should clarify...my point is that there is nothing in the original post that refers people in Shanghai speaking Cantonese, so there is no reason to believe your friend was referring to that dialect, rather than Shanghai&#039;s dialect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should clarify&#8230;my point is that there is nothing in the original post that refers people in Shanghai speaking Cantonese, so there is no reason to believe your friend was referring to that dialect, rather than Shanghai&#8217;s dialect.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment number one is partially incorrect.  Your friend was referring to the fact that people in Shanghai speak the local dialect (&quot;Shanghai hua&quot; or Shanhainese).  Most of them will, of course, also speak Mandarin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment number one is partially incorrect.  Your friend was referring to the fact that people in Shanghai speak the local dialect (&#8220;Shanghai hua&#8221; or Shanhainese).  Most of them will, of course, also speak Mandarin.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeDuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thx for the corrections and comment Karl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx for the corrections and comment Karl.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops... that sentence about all Chinese kids learning Mandarin in school doesn&#039;t belong in the middle of that paragraph.  Sorry for any confusion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230; that sentence about all Chinese kids learning Mandarin in school doesn&#8217;t belong in the middle of that paragraph.  Sorry for any confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://joeduck.com/china-travel/#comment-77099</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s Hong Kong, not Shanghai, where the main dialect is Cantonese.  In Shanghai, Mandarin is the main spoken language.

Cantonese isn&#039;t merely a different &quot;style&quot; of language.  Cantonese and Mandarin are different dialects, and aren&#039;t even mutually intelligible.  They&#039;re related, but less similar than say Italian and Spanish.

The old saying goes &quot;A language is a dialect with an army&quot; ... if Guang Dong (sometimes Anglicized as Canton) were a separate country, Cantonese would definitely be considered a distinct language.  Cantonese and Mandarin are dialects of Chinese in the same way that English and Dutch are dialects of the Germanic language.

A friend of mine grew up in Hong Kong speaking Cantonese fluently, but he only speaks a few words of Mandarin.  He was in Shanghai and thought that maybe he could try speaking Cantonese slowly and with a Mandarin accent and hoped there were enough cognates to get the message across.  Unfortunately, he got a grand total of about zero words across.

However, owing to their logographic/ideographic rather than phonetic writing system, Cantonese speakers and Mandarin speakers can write each other notes.  The central Chinese government requires all students to learn Mandarin these days.  I guess that&#039;s why such a complicated writing system managed to survive for so long when much simpler alternatives exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Hong Kong, not Shanghai, where the main dialect is Cantonese.  In Shanghai, Mandarin is the main spoken language.</p>
<p>Cantonese isn&#8217;t merely a different &#8220;style&#8221; of language.  Cantonese and Mandarin are different dialects, and aren&#8217;t even mutually intelligible.  They&#8217;re related, but less similar than say Italian and Spanish.</p>
<p>The old saying goes &#8220;A language is a dialect with an army&#8221; &#8230; if Guang Dong (sometimes Anglicized as Canton) were a separate country, Cantonese would definitely be considered a distinct language.  Cantonese and Mandarin are dialects of Chinese in the same way that English and Dutch are dialects of the Germanic language.</p>
<p>A friend of mine grew up in Hong Kong speaking Cantonese fluently, but he only speaks a few words of Mandarin.  He was in Shanghai and thought that maybe he could try speaking Cantonese slowly and with a Mandarin accent and hoped there were enough cognates to get the message across.  Unfortunately, he got a grand total of about zero words across.</p>
<p>However, owing to their logographic/ideographic rather than phonetic writing system, Cantonese speakers and Mandarin speakers can write each other notes.  The central Chinese government requires all students to learn Mandarin these days.  I guess that&#8217;s why such a complicated writing system managed to survive for so long when much simpler alternatives exist.</p>
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