As a fiscally responsible guy I had to chime in on the proposed US Defense budget which is, in a word, indefensible.
At $515,000,000,000 this amount is conspicuous for several reasons, and I find it incomprehensible that people who call themselves fiscal conservatives continue to support the insane levels of inappropriate military spending.
One of the biggest reasons the proposed budget is irrational is the very low ROI on military spending. Unlike infrastructure spending, the military spend does not leave you with more bridges, roads, and buildings. It’s only justifiable to the extent it *protects value* and protects the national interests. One need look no further than the Iraq war to see how questionable it is to suggest that spending 500 billion plus there has “protected” much of anything.
One could probably make a strong case for the WWII military effort as it clearly rescued much of the world from the tyrannical grip of Nazi domination, but note that this spending came *after* the hostile actions. I think GW would argue that spending now is a preventative measure for much greater spending later if regions like the middle east explode into much greater instability than now. This is an arguable point, but I’d like to see his ROI calculations on this. When you are talking about spending hundreds of billions annually you can reshape the entire planet with infrastructure improvements, and it is very hard to see how the military protection advantages would trump the tax, infrastructure, and good will advantages of redirecting military spending to other things or – probably more appropriately – lowering taxes and letting that help the economy and individuals.
I’d sure like to see the type of cost benefit analysis you’d do if the US was run more like a business than a bureaucratic empire, but one of the defects of our two party democracy is that neither party is interested in fiscal responsibility – they both want to spend irresponsibly and recklessly but on different things.
This amount is more than all other nations combined, and more than half the entire global military budget. It is true the US has historically born much of the expense of trying to maintain global stability (for complex reasons), so simply noting this is half all defense spending does not explain enough. However this amount still is highly questionable because many nations like Japan should be footing their own defense bills.
Note that this budget does not include funding for Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Much will go for bloated, advanced weapons systems that have little place in a world where most of the threats are from asymetric warfare practiced by fundamentalists with 12th century sensibilities.
It is about time for people who call themselves fiscal conservatives to stop their sheep-like, bleeting support of these huge military budgets and start applying the same (correct) standards they apply to other government spending to the defense budget.
This budget plan makes me sick to my stomach. It feels like Bush’s final knife to the heart of our country (but I guess that would be wishful thinking).
When it comes to weapon systems always remember Count Zaroff: When neither Greece nor Turkey wanted any submarines he gave an antiquated submarine to Greece which promted Turkey to buy one which ofcourse prompted Greece to buy one. Nowadays its the same way only by selling our weapons systems do we increase the threat level which causes our military to want more weapons that we can sell them.
Catherine I wish it was only a Bush thing. Clinton and Carter also had jaw dropping military spending. No serious candidate can pledge intelligent military spending because few people in our wonderful democracy take the few minutes needed to determine how absurd this spending has become, and insist that candidates stop supporting these absurd budgets.
FG – yes, Eisenhower warned how mixing military and gov’t would lead to escalating spending. It’s happened. It’s unconscionable and illogical by any reasonable measure.
This amount is more than all other nations combined, and more than half the entire global military budget. It is true the US has historically born much of the expense of trying to maintain global stability (for complex reasons), so simply noting this is half all defense spending does not explain enough.
The numbers are slightly alarming, but in terms of “materiel” (as military historians say) the USA does not outdistance Russia or China (or EU) by that much. That’s not to say we should support some BoGritz-type of hawkish nationalism, but a “compare-contrast” of say USA and Russian air power (and missile defense) will reveal that the countries are fairly evenly matched. China has a much larger infantry than USA as well.
If the world becomes some hellish Risk game, the USA’s pile is about equal to Russ and China, with EU combined pretty powerful (as is North Korea, and India). I don’t care for McCain that much, but he does have the military experience, and we as a nation are probably better off with an old navy commander at the helm than with Dame Hillary, or the Obama party squad (or Osiris forbid, Mitt Moroni).
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