Barack Obama Victory Speech Transcript. US President Elect Speech. November 4th 2008

Hello, Chicago.

If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.

It’s the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen, by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different, that their voices could be that difference.

It’s the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled. Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of red states and blue states.

We are, and always will be, the United States of America.

It’s the answer that led those who’ve been told for so long by so many to be cynical and fearful and doubtful about what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.

It’s been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this date in this election at this defining moment change has come to America.

A little bit earlier this evening, I received an extraordinarily gracious call from Sen. McCain.

Sen. McCain fought long and hard in this campaign. And he’s fought even longer and harder for the country that he loves. He has endured sacrifices for America that most of us cannot begin to imagine. We are better off for the service rendered by this brave and selfless leader.

I congratulate him; I congratulate Gov. Palin for all that they’ve achieved. And I look forward to working with them to renew this nation’s promise in the months ahead.

I want to thank my partner in this journey, a man who campaigned from his heart, and spoke for the men and women he grew up with on the streets of Scranton and rode with on the train home to Delaware, the vice president-elect of the United States, Joe Biden.

And I would not be standing here tonight without the unyielding support of my best friend for the last 16 years the rock of our family, the love of my life, the nation’s next first lady Michelle Obama.

Sasha and Malia I love you both more than you can imagine. And you have earned the new puppy that’s coming with us to the new White House.

And while she’s no longer with us, I know my grandmother’s watching, along with the family that made me who I am. I miss them tonight. I know that my debt to them is beyond measure.

To my sister Maya, my sister Alma, all my other brothers and sisters, thank you so much for all the support that you’ve given me. I am grateful to them.

And to my campaign manager, David Plouffe, the unsung hero of this campaign, who built the best — the best political campaign, I think, in the history of the United States of America.

To my chief strategist David Axelrod who’s been a partner with me every step of the way.

To the best campaign team ever assembled in the history of politics you made this happen, and I am forever grateful for what you’ve sacrificed to get it done.

But above all, I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to. It belongs to you. It belongs to you.

I was never the likeliest candidate for this office. We didn’t start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign was not hatched in the halls of Washington. It began in the backyards of Des Moines and the living rooms of Concord and the front porches of Charleston. It was built by working men and women who dug into what little savings they had to give $5 and $10 and $20 to the cause.

It grew strength from the young people who rejected the myth of their generation’s apathy who left their homes and their families for jobs that offered little pay and less sleep.

It drew strength from the not-so-young people who braved the bitter cold and scorching heat to knock on doors of perfect strangers, and from the millions of Americans who volunteered and organized and proved that more than two centuries later a government of the people, by the people, and for the people has not perished from the Earth.

This is your victory.

And I know you didn’t do this just to win an election. And I know you didn’t do it for me.

You did it because you understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead. For even as we celebrate tonight, we know the challenges that tomorrow will bring are the greatest of our lifetime — two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century.

Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Americans waking up in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan to risk their lives for us.

There are mothers and fathers who will lie awake after the children fall asleep and wonder how they’ll make the mortgage or pay their doctors’ bills or save enough for their child’s college education.

There’s new energy to harness, new jobs to be created, new schools to build, and threats to meet, alliances to repair.

The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even in one term. But, America, I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there.

I promise you, we as a people will get there.

There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won’t agree with every decision or policy I make as president. And we know the government can’t solve every problem.

But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And, above all, I will ask you to join in the work of remaking this nation, the only way it’s been done in America for 221 years — block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.

What began 21 months ago in the depths of winter cannot end on this autumn night.

This victory alone is not the change we seek. It is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were.

It can’t happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.

So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other.

Let us remember that, if this financial crisis taught us anything, it’s that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers.

In this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people. Let’s resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long.

Let’s remember that it was a man from this state who first carried the banner of the Republican Party to the White House, a party founded on the values of self-reliance and individual liberty and national unity.

Those are values that we all share. And while the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress.

As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours, we are not enemies but friends. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection.

And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn, I may not have won your vote tonight, but I hear your voices. I need your help. And I will be your president, too.

And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces, to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of the world, our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand.

To those — to those who would tear the world down: We will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security: We support you. And to all those who have wondered if America’s beacon still burns as bright: Tonight we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity and unyielding hope.

That’s the true genius of America: that America can change. Our union can be perfected. What we’ve already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that’s on my mind tonight’s about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta. She’s a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election except for one thing: Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.

She was born just a generation past slavery; a time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky; when someone like her couldn’t vote for two reasons — because she was a woman and because of the color of her skin.

And tonight, I think about all that she’s seen throughout her century in America — the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we can’t, and the people who pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.

At a time when women’s voices were silenced and their hopes dismissed, she lived to see them stand up and speak out and reach for the ballot. Yes we can.

When there was despair in the dust bowl and depression across the land, she saw a nation conquer fear itself with a New Deal, new jobs, a new sense of common purpose. Yes we can.

When the bombs fell on our harbor and tyranny threatened the world, she was there to witness a generation rise to greatness and a democracy was saved. Yes we can.

She was there for the buses in Montgomery, the hoses in Birmingham, a bridge in Selma, and a preacher from Atlanta who told a people that “We Shall Overcome.” Yes we can.

A man touched down on the moon, a wall came down in Berlin, a world was connected by our own science and imagination.

And this year, in this election, she touched her finger to a screen, and cast her vote, because after 106 years in America, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, she knows how America can change.

Yes we can.

America, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves — if our children should live to see the next century; if my daughters should be so lucky to live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, what change will they see? What progress will we have made?

This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment.

This is our time, to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth, that, out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope. And where we are met with cynicism and doubts and those who tell us that we can’t, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people: Yes, we can.

Thank you. God bless you. And may God bless the United States


100 thoughts on “Barack Obama Victory Speech Transcript. US President Elect Speech. November 4th 2008

  1. the best political campaign, I think, in the history of the United States of America.

    At least the best funded political campaign: over a billion dollars (ObamaCo had like four or five times the budget of McCorpse). He talks a good game–tho’ sounds more preacherly than statesman like, really, and let’s not forget his consistent support of religious organizations (at least xtian, muslim, and jewish ones), and their support of him: he received more shekels from churches than anyone, so-called fundamentalists like Hucklebee and Romney included.

    I wager Obama will follow the Bill Clinton liberal Keynesian line: entitlements, bureaucracy, big govt., burdens on middle class and small business, yet corporate execs and other American aristocrats will do fine. Maybe he’ll get some decent environmental scientists working with him (hopefully some not schooled in Al Gore “dixie-ecology”), and do something about energy. Don’t hold your breath.

  2. All of the decent environmental scientists are pretty much on board with Al Gore, so, once again, you lose.

    Ever wonder if you’re wrong?

  3. (3) JCH did you ever wonder how Al Gore has made over $100 million dollars over the GW stuff? Do you think he has a vested interest in promoting the GW propoganda. Leading MIT scientists just published a report that contradicts a lot of the assumptions, etc.

    The problem with GW is no one really knows what is going to happen and quite frankly a radical change down the wrong path could accelerate the problems.

    We need to better understand the problem so we know how to fix it before we tax the world economies to the tune of many trillions…

  4. The US govt.’s own statisticians forced Mann (hockey stick guy) to revise his temperature guestimates, didn’t they? This was hashed out months ago, along with most of Gore’s faulty research, like the assumption that minute traces of man-made CO2 have led to global warming–assuming reliable global temp. data, another basic point (called margin of error) that most GoreBots routinely forget. Even some “leftist” environmental people have objected to Gore/Mann. There may be some global warming, but it’s highly unlikely that man-made CO2 is the culprit. For that matter, climate “modellers” are not atmospheric scientists.

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  6. Really one would like to be hopeful for a kinder, gentler bureaucratic democracy ala Galbraith–one even with some socialist aspects. That would require some price stabilization of some type, would it not? That’s what does the working poor and middle class in: steady increases in prices of basic goods, whether gas, food, autos, etc. (welfare another issue). In a sense, the economy’s always in a recession for many; wages, of whatever type, do not match increases in prices. That’s not generally a problem for those who have the cash to play the stocks or commodity casinos, of course. (the markets are not a reliable indicator of economic strength–a bearish market might widen the gap between rich and poor).

    That sort of moderate-leftism (charted out fairly well by Galbraith, who realized econ. was not merely number crunching, but somewhat….conceptual) doesn’t appear to be Obama’s game plan: he flip flops from being a pro-unionist, big govt. LBJ/Clinton type, to a pal of the financiers and corporations (more often the latter). And Obama consistently backs religious peoples–both fundamentalist christians and muslim. I am not optimistic–though after the Cheney years, even moderate successes may impress some in consumerland.

  7. (7) Well the Fair-Tax would certainly go a long way in a kinder, gentler bureaucracy. In fact those at or below the poverty line would receive a significant amount of income each month from the tax policy – a heck of a lot more than what is currently being promised.

    And those bureaucrats would only have incentive to increase and improve our economy because those tax windfalls would allow them to do whatever they wanted. Think about that…they have to make decisions that our good for our economy. That would be a nice change.

  8. I just love the way Obama speaks. I am glad to have him as our president. I am confident he will do his best in ‘making the change we need’ and having it be a success! God Bless Barack Obama. God Bless the United States!

  9. You all have too much time on your hands… you are the ones this administration will target. The ones with no future because all you do is contradict and discuss solutions that do not exist without people to actually do something instead of just talking about them. We cannot count on any one person, or their administration for that matter, to fix everything wrong with this country. But look at how this man empowered the people. Look at how he has pushed us to consider options we never expected to consider. Instead of sitting at your computers criticizing what other people are doing to move this nation into a better place, why don’t you get off your butts and DO SOMETHING.

  10. Dave as cynical as I can get about politics I think this really was a proud moment for many reasons, and Obama’s speech was inspired to say the least.

    Thanks to the founders our country keeps core values while implementing major changes when needed. Rightly or wrongly most thought we needed major changes… now we have them.

    … best funded campaign

    It’s a good point Horatiox and we’ll never know how much of this was great strategy vs what IMHO was McCain’s very poor strategy as well as how much Obama won simply from having staggering resources at his disposal vs what I think ultimately mattered which was a failing US economy.

    This campaign was the longest and most expensive in history and we always need to remind ourselves that we still have less rule by pure Democracy than rule by marketing strategy and serendipity. It is one of the reasons to want the *small Government* both the Republicans and the Democrats abandoned long ago.

    I do think that part of the brilliancy here was using small contributions as a lever to gain participation. Part of this was simply that Obama folks were more excited about their guy than McCain’s. While critics mocked Obama’s “Community Organizing” he and Axlerod were taking that skill to the bank…and now to the White House.

    pro-unionist, big govt. LBJ/Clinton type, to a pal of the financiers and corporations

    Yup, but look for Obama to run his own show. I predict he will surprise many with independent decisions he makes for the good of the country and not Ideology. Bush was a prisoner to his ideology, which prevented the flexibility we’ll see in Obama’s approaches which will be based on new information as it comes in.

  11. I think a lot depends on the cabinet. Look for him to pick mostly seasoned veterans like those who have been counseling him for some time. I’m expecting a “Best and Brightest” cabinet though unfortunately that didn’t keep JFK out of major trouble as he faced the Cuban Missile Crisis early in his term.

  12. 😀 Maureen ! 😀

    Instead of sitting at your computers criticizing what other people are doing to move this nation into a better place, why don’t you get off your butts and DO SOMETHING.

    Sorry, but I’m not sure American could survive without.. ummm…blogging chatter 😆

    At least I’d have to say I’m blogging until you pry the keyboard from my cold, dead hands.

    … and PLEASE pass the donuts and coffee this way….

  13. The pale,doughy flesh of Bush,Cheney and the rest of the Scumbag Elite must be tickled pink.

    The U.S seems unaware of the irony of Obama’s victory.

    They just got Black Man to clean up a White Man’s Mess.

  14. ” but it’s highly unlikely that man-made CO2 is the culprit. For that matter, climate “modellers” are not atmospheric scientists. …”

    All of this is false.

  15. “Leading MIT scientists just published a report that contradicts a lot of the assumptions, …”

    I don’t know exactly who you are talking about, but I rather doubt much of any note has been contradicted. Do you have a name?

  16. (19) Just published on the 30th

    Boston (MA) – Scientists at MIT have recorded a nearly simultaneous world-wide increase in methane levels. This is the first increase in ten years, and what baffles science is that this data contradicts theories stating man is the primary source of increase for this greenhouse gas. It takes about one full year for gases generated in the highly industrial northern hemisphere to cycle through and reach the southern hemisphere.

    However, since all worldwide levels rose simultaneously throughout the same year, it is now believed this may be part of a natural cycle in mother nature – and not the direct result of man’s contributions.

    Rigby and Prinn were the two professors at MIT. Prinn is the TEPCO Professor of Atmospheric Chemistry in MIT’s Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Science.

  17. It’s somewhat pointless to argue with the faithful of the Church of Gore, Glenn. Even Doc Crichton debunked nearly all of IPCC/Gore’s claims and faulty research a few years ago (including the problems with temp. data, and man-made CO2 hype). The Faithful however prefer the eco-lite of Gore, a Harvard C journalism student to that of Dr. Crichton, Harvard MD, prize winning author, honors student, etc. And merely object to the Gore dogma, and voila! You now have a swazi on your forehead,

  18. That doesn’t contradict AGW.

    It’s always best to actually read the scientific paper, or at least an article by a reasonable scientific journal:

    Not to speak ill of the dead, but Crichton made a total fool of himself. I watched Al Gore’s movie. I’ve never read one of his books. I’ve never been to one of his meetings. But that you attack him with such venom is interesting.

  19. (22) JCH…once again you miss the entire point. The article discusses the variation in the methane gas points more to the global warming effects are natural and not necessarily man-made.

    Al Gore (20X house electricity over anyone else) states emphatically that is is man-made so we have to control the evil things man is doing.

    I don’t anyone disputes something is happening with the climate. Most of us just don’t agree that it is primarily man-made…however with all the hot air from Gore, Frank, etc I could see how they would think it is man made.

    The only reason Al Gore is pushing his global warming agenda is for personal power and wealth gain. But JCH that is ok for you since you think we should all be subordinated to the Democratic party.

    At least some of us really want things to improve…you only care that Democrats get elected and stay in office regardless of cost.

    Just look at the stock market today and watch it steadily decline from this point forward. There is no doubt the vote yesterday was historic but so was the market drop today.

  20. We only have one earth, one fragile planet that can take only so much abuse. If what so many of the scientists say is right ( and an ever increasingly small minority of scientists say is wrong), and we screw it up, we don’t have a fallback option. Unlike so many other controversial topics the potential downside to this question may be humanity irreversibly damaging the planets ability to support humanity. It would be the ultimate irony….somewhat like what the investment backs did with derivatives, insuring our own demise through our folly and inattentiveness to the risks we are taking. The downside to doing nothing is potentially severe, the upside is, at a minimum, a cleaner more life sustaining spaceship earth. Too often I find the voices of dissent have ties to such altruistic social servants like big oil, big coal, and big business. I know who I trust, and it isn’t them.

  21. The two science articles definitely say no such thing, and until you read the entire paper we can’t know all that was said.

    But this quote from a member of the scientific team certainly gives a hint that human causes remain front and center:

    “Over recent years, the growth of important greenhouse gases, namely methane and the CFCs, had slowed. This tended to offset the increasing growth rate of carbon dioxide that results mainly from large increases in the consumption of fossil fuels, particularly in the developing world.
    “Now that methane levels have resumed their growth, global warming may accelerate.”

    No scientist or scientific paper I have ever read denies natural variation – they study it night and day. What is virtually universal among the ones I’ve read is that natural variation cannot explain current warming.

  22. Crichton did his homework: State of Fear has pages of citations to scientific articles and journals. Gore didn’t, and relied on Mann/IPCC, who were actually corrected by US stats, dept. That doesn’t mean one supports Crichton’s politics (whatever they are), except in the mind of a psychocrat. But you can spew the usual real climate pep talk– maybe accuse some people of like eating red meat as well.

  23. (26) As always JCH you want to find whatever reference the you like. Here is the article I referenced…and it clearly states what I posted above…verbatim. You really are a raging left loon.

    (25) Paul…I don’t think anyone disagrees with climate change…we can see it happening on all sorts of planets in our solar system and it has happened here many times over. The big issue is…do we spend trillions of dollars on solutions that have about as much chance being right as sitting down at the roulette table.

    Of course doing things as good stewards of our planet make good sense – it is just the right thing to do. We probably would be much better off learning and planning how to adapt.

    I think it is actually pretty silly to think we actually think we can seriously impact climate change – it is a much bigger issue than man made emissions.

    There has never been a plan from a politician that is ever really honest…there are too many strings attached, too many people to be paid off. They never want to really solve the problem, they want to manipulate the solution for maximum power and financial gain. It is the nature of the game.

    Additionally whenever the UN gets behind something it should be a big red flag or anyone. They are most corrupt organization on the planet. It is a shame since I am a long time Rotarian…Rotary was actually the critical starting force for the UN…and I have always wanted the UN to actually do what it is supposed to do.

  24. (27) Horatiox it is the same crap the media has pulled with Obama…if you question people like Al Gore…you get shunned or you lose your tenure. It seems today you have to blow up stuff, kill a bunch of people before you are even given tenure – rationalization through irrationality.

    Al Gore produced a garbage movie filled with holes, blatant misstatements of the truth and imagery that was completely made up – AND we have teachers showing this crap to students.

    I wouldn’t have a problem with a movie about GW if it were more factual than Al Gore’s. He took way too many liberties with such an important issue and he made a propaganda tool solely to put money and power within his reach.

  25. I’m not the only person who smelled a rat:

    “This is the same hoax article that has been posted here several times
    already, in which a dumbass liar, one Rick C. Hodgkin, injects his own
    anti-GW opinion into a study that actually contradicts nothing about AGW
    An unbiased article on the same study, from MIT itself – you’ll note it’s
    missing all the baseless denialist additions: …”

  26. Pages of citations mean nothing if they are in support of something that is unsupportable. State of Fear is a total joke.

    The rest of the tortured history you are snarling about was a big to do about nearly nothing.

  27. Dude, you seem to think if you rant and rave enough you have proven a point. You haven’t.. It’s the unconfirmed co2 thesis that should bother rational people. Hansen, AGW Quack in command, also said CO2 wasn’t the culprit, or at least not the worst GHG. That didn’t stop Guru Gore from making prognostications with the CO2 hype…

  28. “clearly states what I posted above…verbatim. You really are a raging left loon. …”

    You do no understand that the author hoodwinked you? He fooled you. You have your radar turned off, so it’s not hard to do.

    If you want to understand what James Hansen said about CO2 and other GHGs, I would suggest you read his scientific paper. There is nothing in there that nullifies a single word of Al Gore’s movie with respect to CO2.

  29. (33) JCH couple of rules in life…

    1) Never trust a politician
    2) Never trust a hypocrite

    Al Gore is both. You are drinking his kool-aid for some reason it is either the sugar rush or it just tastes too dandy for you to put down.

  30. I do not pay any attention to Al Gore. You could not be any more incorrect.

    I have read several of James Hansen’s papers. He is a scientists with NASA. Basically that is what I do when I want to learn about an issue. I’ve read dozens of scientific papers written by scientists who are studying various aspects of global warming.

  31. There have been numerous criticisms of Hansens’ ideas from the science community (tho’ the naysayers probably eat red meat, and read mein kampf at night):

    The ice core data itself questionable, statistically speaking: what to do with inconsistent data from the same time frame? Clemenzi and others have pointed it out. Some research also seems to show that Co2 increases follow the rising temps.

    We should support sound “green” science and policy in regards to energy problems and oil. However it’s questionable whether AGW rates as significant an issue as energy and depleted oil reserves are (or the economic crisis).

  32. (35) Hansen…LOL…he is politically motivated against the Bush administration. Of course you would side with him. People generally are not very supportive of Hansen.

    Watch the market again today…very bad news for retail sales and layoffs mounting.

  33. The President of the United States is George Bush. If the market goes up or down, it’s his baby. The bad retail sales news is his baby, and the mounting layoffs are his baby. He is the worst President in history.

    James Hansen is a registered Republican. Always has been. It’s irrelevant anyway. His science is substantial. He’s certainly not the only one I’ve read.

    The CO2 lag scam has been demolished time and time again.

  34. Some interesting background on Emanuel…the views of Emanuel and Obama about a civilian are very disturbing. Unbelievable that our country could actually be on this type of path.

    Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, President-Elect Obama’s choice for chief of staff in his incoming administration, is co-author of a book, The Plan, that calls for, among other things, compulsory service for all Americans ages 18 to 25. The following excerpt is from pages 61-62 of the 2006 book:

    It’s time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. …

    Here’s how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service.

    They’ll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we’re hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities’ most pressing needs.

    Emanuel and co-author Bruce Reed insist “this is not a draft,” but go on to write of young men and women, “the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service.” They also warn, “[s]ome Republicans will squeal about individual freedom,” ruling out any likelihood that they would let people opt out of universal citizen service.

    As chief of staff, Emanuel will not be in a position to directly introduce public policy, but his enthusiasm for compulsory service, combined with Barack Obama’s own plan to require high school students to perform 50 hours of government-approved service, suggest an unfortunate direction for the new administration.

  35. Glenn you seem to think this will create a force to “challenge” the military which isn’t even in the ballpark. This is simply a community service effort. Military strategy generally does NOT like to mix local community service efforts in with overall military strategy because it dilutes the fighting training and focus you need to win.

    This is basically a mild form of the Israeli style approach that requires military service, where in this case I’m sure they’d exempt those in the military from serving in this.

    I like these plans because they reduce the cost of otherwise very expensive tasks (Hurricane relief) that Govt generally screws up anyway.

  36. (41) Joe this isn’t about challenging the military at all…it will be about challenging civilians.

    We do not live in the world that Israel lives in and this type of mandatory program on all citizens is not necessary, will be massively expensive and will not provide any lasting benefit. Joe you love to use adjectives like “mild” etc when defending these outrageous programs. This is nothing but mild. The cost will be unprecedented and I can see the ACLU allowing terrorists to join the ranks so they can learn precisely what our response teams will be doing – just brilliant!

    However it certainly will open the door for abuse by the government.

    Look at how Presidential Obama is…

    President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan this afternoon to apologize for a joke about her having heald “séances” in the White House, an Obama aide said.

    “President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan today to apologize for the careless and off handed remark he made during today’s press conference,” said transition spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter. “The President-elect expressed his admiration and affection for Mrs. Reagan that so many Americans share and they had a warm conversation.”

    Obama was asked at his press conference today if he’d spoken to all the “living” presidents.

    “I have spoken to all of them who are living,” he responded. “I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any séances.”

    He was apparently confusing stories about Reagan’s consulting with an astrologer with those about other First Ladies — from Mary Todd Lincoln to Hillary Clinton — who tried to make contact with other figures from the past.

    He’s just a peach…I can’t wait for people to make careless jokes about his wife we will see how he reacts.

    His first presser as President-Elect and this is what we can expect? Unbelievable.

  37. The choice of Raum Emanuel, ex-israeli military, for COS, reveals the Obama agenda fairly clearly, if not the usual Demo. “bait and switch.” RE’s a friend of the neo-cons and a Clinton crony who supported Bush’s IWE (as did Biden); his political record about like Lieberman’s (in ways, more conservative–at least in economic matters).

  38. (44) Joe no honeymoon…just want at annulled…lol

    Actually I am ok with him winning the election it is the way our system works. However I think this will be the most partisan government we have ever had. I think that is good as well because all the left’s hopes and dreams are riding on the likes of Pelosi, Reid, and Frank, etc. They are going to absolutely mess this beyond any recognition.

    If they don’t I will be the first to admit I was wrong!

  39. Yes – we are following up a very neoconservative, aggressive foreign policy high spending experiment with a liberal high spending experiment with unclear foreign policy approaches. At the very least this will allow some interesting comparisons.

    Watching many Republicans eat each other alive I cannot help but think we dodged a bullet. McCain 2000 would have been an OK prez but McCain 2008 was another story, and Palin clearly would have created a level of internal political tension that would have been a serious national security threat. Never in the history of the republic has somebody so unprepared been so close to the Presidency.

  40. (47) Joe I think you will end up shocked as to how unprepared and naive Obama is. His statements over the last two years are stunningly naive.

    I agree McCain was not a great choice either. The Republicans lost their way long ago.

    The Democrats are fully corrupt now and will definitely implode during the next four years. Unfortunately I don’t think it will bode well for us plain folk. It is the 1930’s all over again. We are so stupid in the country to keep repeating history. All of what is happening today could have been avoided.

    It is time for the removal of the two party system and the electoral college. It is immoral to think it will take the next Presidential candidate to have over a billion dollar war chest to even compete. There could so much more done to help people with those billions spent on campaigns. This year election races exceed over 4 billion spent – that is pure insanity.

  41. An authentic leftist (not namby-pamby starbucks liberal) Alex Cockburn has a few thoughts on COS Raum:

    “””The first trumpet blast of change ushers in Rahm Emanuel as Obama’s chief of staff and gate keeper. This is the man who arranges his schedule, staffs out the agenda, includes, excludes. It’s certainly as sinister an appointment as, say, Carter’s installation of arch cold-warrior Zbigniev Brzezinski as his National Security Advisor at the dawn of his “change is here” administration in 1977. “””””

    “”””Emanuel’s….. a former Israeli citizen, who volunteered to serve in Israel in 1991 and who made brisk millions in Wall Street. He is a super-Likudnik hawk, whose father was in the fascist Irgun in the late Forties, responsible for cold-blooded massacres of Palestinians……”

    “””””Working in the Clinton White House, Emanuel helped push through NAFTA, the crime bill, the balanced budget and welfare reform. He favored the war in Iraq, and when he was chairing the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in 2006 he made great efforts to knock out antiwar Democratic candidates. On this site in October and November, 2006, John Walsh documented both the efforts and Emanuel’s role in losing the Democrats seats they would otherwise have won.”””””


  42. Ah forgot el linkio:

    Counterpunch’s a bit edgy for most suburban liberals (and I don’t approve of the politics across the board): at the very least, the counterpunch crew don’t mistake the New York Times or Clinton-style democrats for progressivism (Cockburn had some interesting and well-informed criticisms [with support in scientific community as well] of Al Gore and his pop ecology as well)

  43. I’m French and I wish I were American today. You can be proud of your New President Barack OBAMA.

    His speech made me cry, he said the words I wanted to hear …

    I wish all the best to Obama.



  44. “Cockburn had some interesting and well-informed criticisms [with support in scientific community as well] …”

    It was error-filled, sophomoric tripe.

  45. Hype? That’s St. Gore’s middle name–Al “Eco-hype” Gore, on an Occi. stipend for years. One of Cockburn’s sources, a canadian scientist named Rancourt (not a conservative, and not another “modeller”), pretty much demolished Gore/IPCC claims singlehandedly: he wants proof of the reliability and accuracy of global temp. data over last 100 years, and that it overcomes the margin of error (uh oh, a bit techie for a Gorean).

    Other researchers have said the same. So did Crichton [that’s MD Crichton, compared to Gore, who barely made a C in “physics-lite 101 for dixie drunkards”.] The govt. weather people also admit temp. gathering wasn’t even systematic until the 40s or 50s.

  46. Joe now Obama in his ever changing ideas…now promises to pay $40 an hour for those in the mandatory community service.


  47. I don’t know how to explain it to you, Al Gore has virtually nothing to do with it. So have fun tossing useless insults his way. He is not a climate scientist. He’s never made such a claim. He relies upon the advice of dozens of very capable climate scientist. They like him. That is indisputable.

    Rancourt is a physics professor, and he hasn’t demolished anything. James Hansen is a practicing physicist (remember the time you claimed he wasn’t even a physicist – a computer geek modeler of some sort). You can call him all the names you want, but you are delusional if you think anybody in science has made much headway in taking on James Hansen. He’s been out there on a limb for more than three decades just waiting for one smart guy to saw it off. So far – they can’t do it. Should tell you something, but something tells me you’re sort of hard headed.

  48. JCH I agree that “pragmatic” is likely to be the mantra as Obama’s teams tackle the huge challenges ahead.

    I just hope Obama supporters understand that he’s going to do a lot of things they won’t like because practical solutions are not generally appealing to old style tax and spend liberalism which we can no longer afford thanks in part to Bush’s tax and spend fake “conservatism” that broke the bank over these past 8 years.

    Obama’s action may also frustrate the “out of Iraq today” naivete that persists in the left wing of the Democratic party. I predict Obama will make excellent decisions, which means he’ll piss off a lot of people while he gets the jobs done.

    Glenn I don’t understand how you can possible think Obama is “naive”. This is a guy who is comfortable in inner city slums and Harvard parties. The $40 per hour is a bogus number – he won’t proposing that any more than he’ll propose a civilian corps with more than a modest budget. We can’t afford the *existing* military budget of 550 billion which is unprecedented in all of planetary history and approx the total spending of *all other countries combined*.

  49. This just in from the the Joe Duck fiscal nonsense department regarding Obama’s spending proposals.

    Until I hear more people who absurdly call themselves “Conservatives” demanding huge cuts in the defense budget I’m not going to give them the time of day in terms of fiscal credibility.

    You *cannot* be a conservative and insist on anything but *massive* cuts on defense, which is our nation’s gigantic and most wasteful line item and totally out of control. I can’t emphasize that strongly enough. Palin and McCain are *by no means conservatives* except in the silly “culture war” sense of that term. They favor almost as much reckless spending as the Democrats. We have wasted *trillions of dollars* in the last decade. It’s not sustainable and therefore crappy strategically and it is fiscally unconscionable. I do *not* think the US Military effort is immoral. We remain with only a few exceptions the good guys in the war equations as we try to keep the status quo, maintain stability, and bring freedom and democracy to stubborn factions around the globe.

    Fake conservatives (aka “Neocons”, “Conservatives”, “Republicans”) say we cannot afford to fail in terms of our global US hedgemonic designs. But this is quite wrong. We simply can’t afford the cost to succeed.

    In eight years Bush has added about 4 trillion to the debt, mostly because of overspending on defense. Because this is not sustainable we need a global strategy that we can afford over the long term.

  50. The numbers are daunting, but they do not get less daunting if they are privatized. The current situation is ample proof of that. The entire thrust of GreenRandSpam’s F&F reform was to privatize the risk. It had absolutely nothing to do with regulating lending standards (subprime types). Privatizing government risk got them nowhere.

    If they were to privatize medicaid, the cost to this society of having elderly people/poor children/disabled individuals would not go down; if anything, it would go up. These are inescapable costs to an adult society.

    Americans need grow up and become adults. We have obligations. They’re not so tough.

    Defense spending is unlikely to get cut. The Republicans would start screaming their unpatriotic BS. Some moron Lt Col would stand up and lie about being out ammunition. I do agree the CORE-GAP idiots need to be reigned all the way back in. The Pentagon and CIA need to buy some bug spray and eradicate those fruitloops.

  51. Wow – time for another Global warming post…coming soon as Lomborg just wrote a brilliant piece for WSJ.

    JCH I find Hansen’s *research* to be good but his *generalizations* about the implications of that research to be sensational, especially his fretting over what he seems to think are signs of impending catastrophic global climate change. In my view most of the global warming scientists are doing good research but then focusing narrowly on either obscure points or very unlikely scenarios – sort of seeing the world through anthropogenically and catastrophic tinted glasses.

    There is global warming and humans contribute, but there is little reason to think catastrophe is looming. More importantly we simply cannot afford to implement most of the big money suggested mitigation efforts like the irrational Kyoto protocol (now largely discredited as a solution anyway).

    It is *very clear* from the historical record and projections of the IPCC that catastrophic change is very unlikely, yet the commercial media loves the “An Inconvenient Truth” angles even though most of them have been discredited now. That film is a travesty of science – e.g. showing pictures of Katrina and suggesting it’s a GW phenomenon!?

  52. Privatizing government risk got them nowhere.

    But don’t you think the problem was that they privatized the profit and kept the risks public? When Fannie went private did anybody point out the “too big to fail” risks the Govt was absorbing at that time?

  53. Without his time scales, “impending” is loaded with disinformation. On the internet there are a multitude of incorrect time scales attributed to Jamaes Hansen. That is not his work; that is the work of individuals who can’t read.

    And that conclusion is not clear at all. Where on earth did you get that?

    Or are we back to 2100 again? Please don’t tell me that.

  54. On risk, GreenRandSpam though risk had been conquered by bundling debt mortgage obligations and selling them all over the earth to people who could “insure” them against catastrophe.

    Obviously that did not work. So spreading the 1.5 trillion of F&F assets, various bundled debt obligations, throughout the world would have saved the public not one dime.

    Instead of putting F&F into receivership and funding a 700 billion dollar rescue of privatized risk, F&F would have stood as a floe-through institution and the public (government) would be funding a 2.2 trillion dollar rescue (700 billion plus 1.5 trillion) of private risk.

    On the 1.5 trillion, it is possible some of that was privatized between 2005 and receivership in 2008. Regardless, it would make absolutely no difference.

  55. JCH I’m going to have to take time to digest your last comment on the financials – very interesting.

    At the risk of heating up the globe even more let’s push the warming debate over to the next Lomborg essay post (I am answering your question there….) His assistant just mailed that out to me and it’s in the WSJ.

  56. Joe the $40 an hour is on his changes website. 100 hours = $4000 tax credit = $40 an hour. How many 19 yr old’s do you think actually have to pay income tax? So they get a check!

    Not sure why you are confused on this one…

  57. (59) Why is Obama naive?

    I will sit down with renegade leaders without pre-conditions…even Hillary called him naive on this.

    Iran is a tiny country and not a threat…

    Our troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians…

    Obama publicly stated he will make strikes inside Pakistan …yeah this one was just genius.

    Obama stated the surge wouldn’t work,then stated it didn’t work…

    Obama told Georgia they needed to show restraint after Russia started to invade them…

    Obama is naive and dangerous. Wait until you see what happens after he meets with Russia before the end of the year.

  58. (60) Joe there needs to be so many cuts in spending. Our government should seriously look at numbers upwards to 40% in some areas. Hundreds and hundreds of programs need to be canceled.

    We need to cut military for sure and we need a check and balance on programs that are overpriced, etc…

    However we still need to be strong in the military and in space. We probably will have our best shot at understanding climate change by further exploration of other planets.

    We can’t allow another nation to get a leg up in the space game especially where military and space are concerned.

    Our biggest form of protection is eliminating our purchases of foreign oil. We need to help China with this problem as well. Once we shut down the money flow tied to foreign oil we can get a major leg up.

  59. Obama’s co-chair of the transition team states come Jan 20th Obama will be ready to RULE on day one. Unbelievable…I didn’t realize we elected a KING.

  60. glenn and horatio ,be objective and quit hating obama cos hate it or love it, he WILL be your president. also joe and jch, obama is most likely goin to disappoint u. i like him, but it does not mean he wont disappoint. Even lincoln disappointed some people. just hope obama delivers much more than he disappoints.

  61. I find Obama’s macho act regarding Bush’s executive orders amusing. Bush submitted the Iraqi war effort (and timeline of investigations, compliance, etc.) to approval by House and Senate: like 75% of the Democrats approved, and approved continued funding (as did Obama), as well as FISA, PatAct. Very few recanted (except some like Edwards, who needed votes).

    If and/or when the war crime trials begin–maybe in the Hague, or Stockholm, instead of the usual mafia-run US court—the leading DNCocrats, such as Feinstein, Pelosi, Biden, HRC, Kerry, Raum Emanuel, etc. will be sitting in the tumbrils along with Bush/Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, OR the trial’s a farce, and should be viewed as analogous to the stalinist show trials of the 30s.

  62. Horatiox it’s clear to me that Obama will show good thinking in this area and will continue the surge and follow Petraeus’ excellent strategies in this and also in Afghanistan.

    As happened with Clinton, supporters will not be critical of Obama’s military actions even when they were critical of Bush for identical actions.

    This is one of the challenges of our two party “go team” kind of thinking – people are more interested in supporting their team than thinking independently. This “running with the pack” approach has survival value evolutionarily but I think it gets increasingly dysfunctional as problems get more complex.

  63. “People are more interested in supporting their team than thinking independently.

    Yes that’s a problem, I believe: for instance, a Feinstein or Biden’s voting record is about the same as a McCain’s (DiFi’s probably slightly more conservative–she was the prime mover behind the PatAct for one, and wanted even more security controls, like cyber-ID cards, checkpoints etc.. The fact that both GOP and Dem (demopublicans) supported the IWE or had a hand in the lending crisis, or attacks on civil liberties simply doesn’t phase many DemoBots–Ignorance is Strength (not to say bliss).

    At least petrol prices went down with BO’s victory (deals with some oil sheiks?). Regardless of the usual conservative whines about tax increases, price increases on consumer items (gas, housing, food, etc) are a far more significant factor. Had OBamaCo some real yankee progressive spine, they’d levy a tax on religious organizations (all of them– xtian, jewish and/or muslim). Ulysses Grant argued for that for years, to no avail. A tax on the properties held by catholics and jews would pay off a great deal of the deficit.

  64. The fact that Robert Malley is involved with Obama on foreign policy this definitely sheds some light on where this administration is going.

    This is going to be a disaster.

  65. More foolishness from the liberal left…

    Democratic leaders in the U.S. House discuss confiscating 401(k)s, IRAs

    Democrats in the U.S. House have been conducting hearings on proposals to confiscate workers’ personal retirement accounts – including 401(k)s and IRAs – and convert them to accounts managed by the Social Security Administration.

  66. Watch this video from Yuri Bezmenov and how he tried to warn the US about Communism and how it is integrated into our population.

    Watching what the raging left is currently doing it isn’t that far fetched.

    The four steps…

    1. Demoralization (the breakup of a moral society)
    2. Destabilization
    3. Crisis
    4. Nationalization

  67. Glenn I can’t believe you keep digging this stuff up! Do you seriously believe Obama is working towards a communist dictatorship? And the *current* secretary of Defense Gates – who Obama will keep for at least a year – is in on this? If anybody should be worried about Obama it’s the American left who will be very disappointed as he deploys a lot of the common sense stuff we need now, which includes continuation of some of the policies they don’t like.

    I’d really challenge you to read real news rather than the Newsmax and GatewayPundit stuff where about 9 of every 10 posts are just ranting. Those sites just publish any old garbage to generate traffic – I don’t think they believe it any more than Corsi thinks Obama was born in Kenya.

    Sit back and look at Obama information objectively and you’ll see there are no consipiracies looming. There ARE a host of huge problems but it’s absurd to blame the past on Obama.

  68. Joe the extreme left has a solid plan of socialism and they are trying to implement it.

    Those interviews from Yuri have been on google video for a while. I don’t even read Newsmax…occasionally I get links to articles there but I don’t read it as part of my quest for news.

    As Yuri said those that have been indoctrinated in our colleges will not even recognize the facts when presented to them. Ironically I actually refused to take the liberal arts classes in college and still got out with almost 150 credits double major/double minor but I wouldn’t drink the kool-aid then and I don’t drink it today.

    The Democratic left is filled with corrupt, hypocrites that are willing to sell us all down the river.

    I don’t buy any of it and neither does the market.

    How many industries do they have to nationalize before you would say…hey wait a minute?

    You want to feel good about Obama that he is going to save the world…LOL..seriously he has done more to divide the country than another person in the history of the planet. This could have all been avoided if he had run an honest campaign. Now he doesn’t even have to have his campaign finance audited…what a scam!

    You want to trust him that is your choice…not mine he has not done anything that would garner my trust. However I can list a dozen things that he has directly done that would lessen any trust with him. Just look at what he has said he was going to do since the beginning of his campaign and what he actually has done.

    How much you want to bet his 95% tax cut will be put on hold?

    So what would you do Joe if someday you woke up and realized that we were a socialist country?

  69. (82) Joe I never blamed the past on Obama…he is just fulfilling a plan that started 40 years ago. He is a bought and paid for man. I don’t think I would like who has paid for him.

  70. I wonder if Obama would have passed his own background check that he is requiring of anyone that wants to join his administration.

    Here are some examples of the 63 requests for information:

    The questionnaire, the New York Times reported, includes 63 requests for personal and professional records, some covering applicants’ spouses and grown children as well, that are forcing job-seekers to rummage from basements to attics, in shoe boxes, diaries and computer archives to document both their achievements and missteps, the Times said.

    Obama wants applicants to “list all aliases or ‘handles’ you have used to communicate on the Internet,” and asks people to include any e-mail that might embarrass the president-elect, along with any blog posts and links to their pages.

    Hoping to weed out anyone with ties to companies at the center of the $700 billion bailout, question 18 of the Obama application asks whether “you, your spouse or any member of your immediate family” have been affiliated with Fannie, Freddie, American International Group, Washington Mutual and any other institution getting a government bailout.

    Here is a link to the questionnaire…

    Click to access 17972158.pdf

    Just another fine example of the hypocrisy on the left…

  71. Ayers in the Chicago Sun-Times reveals that he and Obama were friends, etc…in the re-issuing of his Fugitive Days book Ayers now has added the following:

    “We had served together on the board of a foundation, knew one another as neighbors and family friends, held an initial fund-raiser at my house, where I’d made a small donation to his earliest political campaign,” he writes.

    He also refers to Obama has a “family friend”. Now Ayers is trying spin his previous interviews and states he never wished his group had set off more bombs – well we know that isn’t true – just go listen to the interviews in his words.

    In any event it is clear that Obama deliberately misled the American public on these facts. Why is it ok for Obama to mislead the American people when it protects him?

    He is the one who was friends with this guy, etc…

    I am sure more and more will now begin to surface and the truth will finally see the light of day.

    Look at his website…first he publishes a lot his ideas and then people start to read them and criticize them so what does he do…he takes them off the website. So what is the plan here? Was it bad judgment to even publish his plans before they were properly thought out? There is this recurring pattern of test the wind via response that seems to plague him. This will haunt him throughout his presidency.

    Joe I don’t want Obama to fail, I wish he would be the best president this country has ever had. I just can’t trust him until he proves that he can be trusted and by misleading us and hiding facts does not build that trust.

  72. “list all aliases or ‘handles’ you have used to communicate on the Internet..

    Yikes – I guess I can’t serve in the Obama Administration cuz I can’t even remember all my email addresses!

  73. On ABC’s Good Morning America Chris Cuomo did challenge Ayers on whether or not he was a terrorist. But after Ayers contended, “It’s not terrorism because it doesn’t target people. It doesn’t target people to either kill or injure.”

    This is seriously how twisted our country has become. This takes the whole depends on your what your definition of “is” is.

    This is an absolute disgrace that someone like Ayers is allowed to spin the truth about his mentally insane antics.

    It is even more disgraceful that the MSM is putting him on NOW after the election so he can push his books.

    This is the kind of standard we continue to strive for…the absolute lowest you could ever define.

    Look at Boxer’s aid arrested in a child porn sting…that just happens to be the second aid on her staff to be charged with something like that. The hypocrisy from the leaders of the far left is just simply astounding.

  74. Just 2% of voters who supported Barack Obama on Election Day obtained perfect or near-perfect scores on a post election test which gauged their knowledge of statements and scandals associated with the presidential tickets during the campaign, a new Zogby International telephone poll shows.

    Too bad we don’t have a lemon law for dishonest candidates and the press!

  75. In an effort to mollify those who fear that an Obama Administration’s “spread-the-wealth” philosophy will lead to socialism, Representative Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) dismissed the Communist Party USA’s assertions that Obama’s election will “usher in the dawn of a new era” and tried to assure Americans that they need not worry.

    “People are getting worked up over nothing,” Hoyer said. “There’s a difference between campaign rhetoric and reality. It’s not possible to keep every promise. And it’s not as if Obama has a track record of getting things done.

    He hasn’t authored any significant legislation at the national or state level. So, I’d say it’s not likely that much of substance will happen while he’s president.

    Governmental sloth and inertia will continue to preserve our way of life.”

    ROFL…the new standard we live by…this is what they call change?

  76. Joe you can’t be happy with Eric Holder as AG under Obama.

    What is this guy thinking about?

    As deputy attorney general, Holder was the key person who made the pardon of Marc Rich possible in the final hours of the Clinton presidency. Now, Obama will be stuck in the Marc Rich mess.

    If ever there was a person who did not deserve a presidential pardon, it’s Marc Rich, the fugitive billionaire who renounced his US citizenship and moved to Switzerland to avoid prosecution for racketeering, wire fraud, 51 counts of tax fraud, evading $48 million in taxes, and engaging in illegal trades with Iran in violation of the US embargo following the 1979-80 hostage crisis.

    Seventeen years later, Rich wanted a pardon, and he retained Jack Quinn, former counsel to the president, to lobby his old boss.

  77. I would imagine all of you have scrutinized the new Obama direction for the government. It is posted on
    None of my Obama supporter friends have read about what Obama is actually doing. It’s a good read.
    It would be great to read a blog analysis after a detailed read.

    The Devil is in the Details.

    – Arthur

  78. (94) Problem is Arthur…it keeps changing faster than a newborn’s diapers.

    I think they will keep a moving target as the wind blows so does their position.

    Very dangerous game and a sign they have few convictions within their principles.

    And let’s not forget…he still a smoker!!! I didn’t think you were allowed to smoke if you were on the left…oh wait is that another example of hypocrisy? Everyone else has to stop smoking…but I can smoke wherever I want including in publicly funded locations?

  79. The Obama administration is ready to accept a nuclear Iran. They are now offering a nuclear response if Israel is attacked by a nuclear weapon by Iran.

    This is exactly WHY Obama should not have been elected. The world is going to pay for the naive approach to Iran.

    Simply unbelievable. How many millions more Jews have to be slaughtered before the world wakes up and stands united against terrorist supporting countries? Iran and Pakistan both need to neutralized and soon.

    Remember all those that supported Obama when this incredibly naive approach to Iran fails…think about all the lives it has cost.

  80. The cover up begins.

    The Obama administration will go down in history as the most corrupt this country has ever seen.

    If anyone doesn’t think Obama wasn’t involved in the discussions regarding HIS senate seat…ROFL…

    Sheeple of the country rejoice…nothing to see here…just turn away…everything will be fine.

    Pelosi, Dodd, Frank, Schumer…will definitely be the most corrupt cabal ever to grace our capital.

    Hope everyone is ready for this fun ride. All this crap already and he isn’t even in office yet.

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