Here are a bunch of news reports about the camp. In fact one of the mashups here is from a Google engineer and will allow lists like this, created by Google, to be placed inside other applications. Good Google, good.
Monthly Archives: July 2006
Mashup Camp 2 – Day 2 begins
… Mashup Thursday begins with MSN sponsored coffee, for which they deserve major caffienated credit. Part of the interesting buzz here (and I htink at MIX) is how good the LIVE people are and how different LIVE at MS is from the “old” MS culture which has a reputation for slow development and cumbersome approaches. Maybe it’s the coffee?
HERE is a list of today’s schedule here at Mashup Camp 2. Great to see more from Yahoo and Google today.
Why Wikis? We need a blog post to public wiki mashup?
Am I wrong to be skeptical that Wikis are the right answer to “loose” forms of collaboration such as those found at conferences or within non-corporate interest groups with many different types of folks?
Yet Wikipedia works fanastically? Is this because it’s a big, long term project?
I’m noticing challenges with the Wiki here at MashupCamp. I cleared spam last night only to find the *same spam* had been returned this morning. Hardins “Tragedy of the Commons” comes to mind in the sense that it’s hard to manage public spaces due to incentive issues.
But more important than spam is the challenge of updating. In a world where so many conference participants have blogs and websites isn’t there a way to collaborate where people update their blogs (high incentive to update, clear spam, etc) and then this content flows into the collective space?
A blicki system? Barriers to participation in Wikis must be reduced and it seems fundamental that successful collaborative systems don’t ask people to do things they won’t naturally “just do”.
Wikis certainly work very well as envisioned by my fellow Oregonian Ward Cunningham who coined the term “Wiki” from, I think, a Hawaiian Bus stop sign. I wonder if his original notion was for more structured and incentified forms of collaboration such as in a company?
Mashup Camp 2 – Day 1 – wait, there’s more!
The excellent unconference format makes the entire conference something of a networking session. Still, it’s great to have a few beers with folks who make the internet … so darn interesting.
I always enjoy talking with the brilliant Adam Sah who brings plenty of Google gadget enthusiasm to the mashup mix and I’m sure will have some great stuff to show us tomorrow during the last session. Also really enjoyed meeting mashup and housingmaps.com legend Paul Rademacher (whoa – not to be confused with this Paul Rademacher, who is dead).
Paul’s early mashup of Craigslist and Google maps (before there was a maps API no less!) helped usher in the notion that mashups are a very useful, great way to mix data in innovative ways. Had a great chance to talk about some travel mashing ideas with Adam and Paul. There’s a hurricane of real time road data at the transportation departments but it’s non-trivial to pull even a fraction of that in effectively. Mashups to the rescue? Maybe.
Also got to meet the famous ex-googler blogger Mark Jen who was fired by Google for … blogging! He works over at Plaxo now where he won’t get fired because … he wrote the blogging policy! Very nice and sharp guy.
Mashup Camp 2 – Brain Pain, but the good kind
Mashup Camp 2, day 1 wraps up with here at the Computer Science Museum.
Despite some good presentations, I think the Speed Geeking Session was the best part as in Mashup Camp 1, but it seemed the mashups in the competition are not quite as strong though there are several good ones and I only saw about 15 today. David Schorr’s WeatherBonk, which almost won Mashup Camp 1, is back and better than ever. He’s got GolfBonk as well which is very clever. The best viral marketing idea was a mash of maps and myspace called Frappr.com
Frucall‘s callback with shopping data was neat and Intel’s up to some great stuff with their shopping mashup that takes a *picture* of the UPC and fetches shopping data. Also strong in this space SecretPrices.com
Some of these are too complex to digest, especially on the tiny screens some people were using to show off their applications (Marc, dude – you call that a screen?!) But his PeopleAggregator roll your own social network looked really promising in many ways. Yobie’s online mega shop GoodStorm.com also needs a lot more than 5 minutes and has very powerful features.
Pictures from Mashup Camp 2
Mashup Camp 2 Pictures are starting to flow online. These are just from Flickr tagged with MashupCamp2.
IBM Mashup Maker
IBM’s getting Web 2.0 and will be presenting their “mashup maker” here shortly.
Also, Tessa gave a nice intro to IBM’s internal project Koala yesterday.
Mashup Camp 2 – Speed Geeking!
Michael: Chunklove registry finder
Nassar? Cell phone to shopping assistant for pricing
? Ultra mobile PC, pictures of barcodes, etc.
? Podcasts and newsfeeds
Jeff Marshall – new system for
Bart – Traincheck.com train times to cell phone
Dave – Bungee Labs. Web 2.0 “Free Fusion” the ultimate mashup.
Fisher, Elephant Drive – web storage
Curt – Music Video Maker Mashup
John – AOL – ChefMoz, a restaurant Mashup
Chris – Eventful. Flickr tagging by event.
Mark – SecretPrices.com Shopping mashup
? – Mega Map Mashup Yahoo+Google
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Yobie Benjamin – GoodStorm, Mecommerce
? Malguru scrapes all travel data into one space.
Tom – Acting manager of FLEX working group
Weatherbonk.com and GolfBonk.com
David with AOL – Open directory mashup
MindJet – 10 search APIs mashed to desktop, research results.
Note to developer dudes – it helps if you speak c-l-e-a-r-l-y. Fast is OK, but clear is essential.
Mashup Camp 2 – search session
Dorai Thodla of IMorph led an excellent search discussion this morning about the challenges of bringing more context into the search results. He’ll post at the WIKI this afternoon. Google noted that their new API is allowing a lot more integration and flexibility than it used to, and I think Yahoo is moving in this direction as well where the commercial use distinctions are breaking down in favor of … innovation! Hey, innovation is a good thing.
But in my opinion the most interesting development in all in search is the Amazon Web Search platform which Jeff will be talking about this afternoon. From my perspective Amazon is basically going to aggressively enable modest potential search competitors with big time search infrastructure.
Even if this fails to bring any great innovation to the table, I think it’s already helping to suggest that Google and Yahoo should continue to bring good APIs to the table and encourage search mashing.
Mashup Camp 2
The technology providers have introduced themselves and now folks are pitching sessions. Note that unlike the play by play from Mashup University, I won’t be able to cover the flurry of information here at the main conference, a tsunami of ideas and innovation. The unconference model really brings out the good stuff.
Here are more resources:
I’m especially interested in sessions by Jeff – Amazon, Joseph – Plaxo, Adam – Google, Steve Microsoft Virtual Earth. IBM’s mashup maker sounds really neat.