Godin at Google is Good


Seth Godin, one of the great online marketeers, recently spoke at Google and here is the Video.

His main point is that success is about marketing more than technology, even for companies like Google.

I’m really struck the more I “dive in” to the Web 2.0 people, experience, and companies how poorly this simple message is understood.   Everybody seems to “get” that they’ll need to monetize traffic at some point, but I think many *wrongly* have taken away from the Google experience that great money comes when you build great technology.   It happens, but not often.

STOP the PRESSES! It’s Newsvine.com


Wow.  I was about to elaborate on my notion that Craigslist is a great example of what most 2.0 companies are lacking (community and simple access to tons of relevant info).

But there’s an amazing new 2.0 company in town (actually it’s based in SEATTLE rather than a Silicon City).  Newsvine.com

I’m still digging into the site details, but this is looking like EXACTLY the type of 2.0 effort that uses the power of the internet to leverage existing resources (news feeds) and a potentially HUGE user base (news junkies) to create abundant new content and a NEW community.

Craigslist vs Edgeio as a Web 2.0 smackdown?


Recently I suggested that Edgeio will fail despite the fact that it’s a brilliant application with great folks behind it. Brilliant? Yes – it’s got a beautiful interface (check out that geocoded slider!) , great Buzz (how many companies are cited in blogs this often, plus backing from Jeff Clavier and Michael Arrington plus advice from Yahoo’s Zawodny? Great idea in theory too – capture listings automatically from blogs at no charge using a simply tagging feature, allow users to modify at the site or thier site, and only make money when you add value. Create a sort of blog listing community from the exploding bloggers!
BUT….Unfortunately for Edgeio I think all the folks working on it have Silicon colored glasses. These work well for companies that are already in the loop, profitable, and can make their own market spaces (e.g. Yahoo, Google, Amazon), but Edgeio will have a lot of trouble building community outside of the “buzz” area of Silicon Valley. Also, and I think most importantly, Silicon valley is so enamored with the *potential* of tagging content that they can’t realize people from Peoria simply will not tag stuff. Nope. They’ll wait a little longer until Google and Yahoo start doing this for them using the personalized search models under development now and which we’ll see a lot more of when MSN deploys it’s new search in a few months.

CONTRAST THIS with the ultimate in Web 2.0 design and deployment: Craigslist.com!

But WAIT, say you who remember so well THE WELL and the days before Web 2.0.  In fact the days before Web 1.0.  Craigslist came around at Web 0.1 and THAT is why it’s ALSO the killer 2.0 style site …personified….literally.   Like the early web, Web 2.0 is about natural community and natural information exchange much more than anything else… JUST LIKE web 0.1 was about natural communities and natural information exchanges of unADULTerated content (or adulterated only when it was the adult community involved in the adulteration. (Continued next post)

The NEXT BIG thing


CNN’s Web 2.0 coverage covers some of the new upstarts in the internet world.  I think it’s a great list of interesting representative companies and trends, but the storyline implies incorrectly that the next Google may be amongst these.  I suppose it’s possible that Amazon, listed as an “incumbent to watch”, could eclipse Google if it’s Open search and sharing of search APIs takes off in a much bigger way than it appears to be doing, but I’m wondering if they are hyping the wrong aspect of 2.0 here.    The point is that these companies will NEVER get “huge” like a Google or MSN.  Rather they’ve carved out niches and want to be the best in that limited area.  There’s HUGE money to be made in almost all traditional (and many non-traditional) niches by bringing the power of the internet both in terms of website and email values and general online efficiencies with all the good stuff the internet brings to the table…for free.

Concern as a function of distance


Fascinating and very relevant to “problem solving” is how we prioritize our charitable acts.    Seems theat he closer you get to your own location – geographically or psychologically – the more likely you are to “chip in”.    Thus an American is more comfortable giving to the local school than to one in another state and to schools in the USA more than in India.

This is probably logical from a “survival” and evolutionary perspective, especially when you are helping a family member and therefore increasing the  chances of reciprocal behavior and passing along of your own genetics to future generation.

However I think I prefer the approach where you look at the return on investment.  For example I could give 1000 to a local university and help a student for … a month.   Or I could give that thousand to an India school and help 5+ students for a whole year (I guesstimate).

Yahoo = Las Vegas of the 1960s


Mike over at Topix.net suggested that Yahoo is sort of like Las Vegas.  He meant more in terms of monetization while surfing, but I’m thinking “hey, they ARE like the old Vegas!”

I see Yahoo as 1960’s Vegas, which was the “hippest and coolest” Vegas:
* Signature Yahoo Martinis served with blinking plastic “ice” cubes.  Yahoo fancy ice sculpture. (Mashup Camp Yahoo Party, Feb 2006)
* Burlesque show and GoGo Dancers at PURE (Webmaster World Las Vegas) Party sponsored by … Yahoo. November 2005
* The RAT PACK = Tech Development Team.  I know many would agree with me that Jeremy Zawodny is the Frank Sinatra of Web 2.0

Who will win Web 2.0?


Google was the CLEAR winner of the Web 1.0 contest.   With a jaw dropping company valuation of over 100 billion in a matter of only a few years since inception, Google continues as a the dominant force in the dominant paradigm of Web 1.0 with is … SEARCH.

But …. look at Yahoo – they are “getting” Web 2.0  and they are BUYING Web 2.0 companies in a big way. When you talk to Yahoo people they are talking 2.0 and they are very excited about it.

But …. it’s not clear there Web 2.0 offers the same opportunities for *business* that Google could take advantage of, namely pay per click advertising concentrated around a huge search portal and thousands of affiliated content sites that run “adsense” ads.

Google may be a great technology company but they are making about 99% of their money from …. advertising.    If Web 2.0 “succeeds”, as it almost inevitably must, in redistributing content and power to the broader and growing online user community, then who’s going to control the advertising which will also be distributed more broadly?

Google 2006 = Yahoo 2001?


Bambi Francisco at MarketWatch raises many of the key points about Google’s monetization challenges in the coming months and years. I was surprised to see this coming from Bambi who’s articles back in Bubble days were notoriously optimistic about the prospects for companies like Amazon that later saw HUGE stock dives. She also notes that IACI has a darn good search. I note they don’t have a bubblesque stock price either, with PE about … 12.

I covered some of these GOOG Stock items earlier, actually even before the recent stock tumble at Google.