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Yahoo + Microsoft? Heck yes says Legg Mason, with 6% of Yahoo

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Larry Dignan is reporting that major Yahoo Shareholder Legg Mason is insisting that Yahoo make a Microsoft deal, though they hope and may expect MS to up the offer past 31 and up to 40, which Fund manager Miller stated appears to have been MS’s highest previous offer over the past year of flirting with Yahoo about a merger.

Miller says about Legg Mason’s position:

 We think this deal is a strategic imperative for MSFT, and that YHOO is in a tough spot if it wishes to remain independent.

Strategic imperative or not, Yahoo can’t expect investors to sit back and wait for something to happen when this much money is on the table.   In fact I think investors are already upset that Yahoo is basically suggesting this is their course of action – waiting for prosperity to fall upon them but not in the form of Microsoft.

I should say that given the market’s horrible reaction to the aquisition I’m not at all clear this is good for *Microsoft*.  If they screw up managing Yahoo and/or Yahoo can’t revived it’s sagging profitability fast this could go down as a Time Warner AOL fiasco kind of move for Microsoft.  However, if they want Yahoo I think Microsoft’s strategy from this point on can be very simple:

1.  Offer $34 per share publicly and loudly.
2. Call Legg Mason and other big holders, and tell them this is *OFF* if Yahoo keeps waffling.
3. Bring in fat lady to sing       ….         it’s over.

 Disclosed:  Long on Yahoo. 

Hostilities erupt between Yahoo and Microsoft

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Hey, looks like now it’s an official *hostile takeover* attempt from Microsoft in the battle for the internet giant Yahoo.

Yahoo declined Microsoft’s offer of last week and in this press release Microsoft basically declares their intention to duke it out.    I’m surprised they have not upped the ante yet, but perhaps they are waiting for more drama and information before making a “final” offer to the Yahoo board before taking this directly to Yahoo shareholders.    Although I think most shareholders would take the MS offer it’s clear the *big* shareholders like Jerry Yang don’t want to, so perhaps Yahoo can win a proxy battle for the company.    I have a hunch however that the institutional investors, and the legions of small time folks like me, would jump at a 34+ offer and probably even take the current one unless Yahoo shows a lot more signs of life than screaming out the current rallying cry “We are fighting Microsoft!”

Microsoft PE=16, forward PE=13!

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Wow.    As Yahoo rebuffs them and Microsoft shares continue to take a beating from  what appears to be Yahoo aquisition unhappiness, the PE of this mega company is looking nothing short of spectacular.    Some would argue that Microsoft is slowly dying due to the massive changes in the way people and businesses use software, but it’s foolish to think Microsoft’s prospects are dim under the current conditions.   In my view they are simply making too much money, and remain a key player in a key industry, to deserve this low market valuation.  

If the Yahoo merger happens the PE at MSFT will take a hit, but it would clearly remain well under 20, a very modest PE for a company that still has significant growth potential.

But, I guess like other investors I’m a herd animal and fearful, so I won’t be buying MSFT….quite yet.

Disclosure:  Long on Yahoo, no Microsoft position.

YaAOLhoo? Are you kidding?

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The Times of London is, I think, exaggerating a rumor that Yahoo and AOL might merge in an effort to find off the Microsoft takeover of Yahoo.      I don’t even think this is necessarily a bad idea if you made sure the management of both companies had the necessary shakeups to turn *both* companies around from what seem like desparate corporate positions.  However it just doesn’t ring likely to me at all, and begs the question of how the Yahoo board could make all this work *and* avoid the wrath of the market which probably will view the Microsoft offer as far more favorable than a pie in the sky possible AOL deal.    That said, I’m open to this possibility.    The main thing I’m *against* is more of the same from Yahoo.    Profits and share price matter more than any anti-Microsoft sensibilities, and the board should keep that top of mind at all times. 

Disclosure:  Long on Yahoo 

Microsoft v. Yahoo. They can’t seem to make an offer Yahoo can’t refuse.

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The big tech story remains the Microsoft offer to buy Yahoo, and on Wednesday a meeting at the Yahoo’s HQ in Sunnyvale, CA may seal the deal, though it’s more likely that negotiations will continue for some time after that meeting.

Microsoft may be wondering about the wisdom of the aquisition given how hard the market appears to have punished them for the offer.   Although other tech stocks were down last week, Microsoft’s 13% drop amounted to a loss in capitalization equal to almost the entire value of the Yahoo deal.   ie you could argue that even if Yahoo sold themselves to Microsoft for $1 on Wednesday, the boost in the merged company value would not make the two any more valuable than *Microsoft along* was worth before all this began.     That’s a lot of financial simplification but Microsoft must have at least somewhat more skepticism about all this than they did as they made this offer.

So, what are the likely strategies here?     It is clear Yahoo will reject the current Microsoft Offer which amounts to about $30 per share, and they are strongly rumored to be asking Microsoft for $40 per share.   I’ll eat my keyboard if Microsoft agrees to $40, but I do think they may immediately counter offer at about $34 per share.     Of course unless the inclinations of the Yahoo board change they’ll reject this as well.    I’m growing somewhat suspicous that the unreasonable $40 amount is not really an attempt to boost the sales price – it may be the best way for the Yahoo board to send negative signals, try to wait things out, and give Microsoft more chances to back out.   If Microsoft gets cold feet from the share price drops or Yahoo’s chilly reception of the merger idea, and then backs out of the deal, shareholder lawsuits against the Yahoo board are less likely and weaker.  The Yahoo board will simply say the $40 was a negotiating tactic that went wrong rather than a tactic to kill a good deal.

However I don’t think Microsoft is going to go softly into the night on this, and that will make all this very interesting.    They’ll offer more, and at even $34 per share Yahoo would be getting an amount approaching a 100% premium over their recent 52 week low of about $18 per share.  This is the price YHOO traded at following the bad guidance from the recent earnings call.  

It strains the credulity of this shareholder to see how the Yahoo board can argue that Yahoo has a realistic shot at being “twice as valuable” as they were last week in a reasonable time frame.   In short, we all know they can’t.    This may be a defect of market forces or employee attrition or lazy management or low morale or Google defections or whatever, but left to her own devices Yahoo is pretty much going nowhere fast.   I’ve been bullish on Yahoo for several years now and remain convinced that the company can eventually turn things around.  However I think this aquisition may be 1) part of that turnaround process and  2) presents an offer far too good to refuse without risking a share price meltdown.

So, looks to me that on Wednesday the Yahoo board will turn down the current offer, Microsoft will up the offer to about $34, and Yahoo board will turn that down too (probably the following week).  This will lead to nothing short of a Yahoo shareholder revolt as anxious investors watch a company throw away tens of billions of birds in the hand arguing they are seeking a few more birds in the internet bush.

Ha – even Mini Microsoft hates the deal.   An interesting salary debate over there along with the normal absurd whining from developers over their already very large salaries. 

Disclosure:  Long on Yahoo (but not for long!?)

YahoOliver Twist to Microsoft “Can I have more please, sir?”

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Ina is reporting over at CNET that Yahoo is going to reject Microsoft’s current offer of about $30 per share and ask Microsoft for $40 per share at the Wednesday meeting.    I’m still in the camp that says Yahoo is not in a good negotiating position to make this demand, though contrary to what better connected folks than I suggest I’m guessing Microsoft will up the offer to seal this deal next week.   I say they’ll offer $34-35 at current MS pricing.   This is more than any reasonable definition of “fair market price”, and Yahoo’s board could only reject this at their huge legal peril. 

 I’m not a fan of class action lawsuits but Yahoo can probably expect a gigantic one if they turn down MS and then Yahoo tanks again.   This would probably  be resolved quickly by a board decision to go ahead and sell. 

I’d love to be a fly on Eric Schmidt’s office wall right now as Google’s role in all this is really intriguing.   They can let the merger go and assume MicroHoo can’t be competitive with Google, they can help Yahoo with monetization in a bold way to prop up Yahoo’s stock but effectively keep their one true competitor alive, or they can just sit and wait for it all to shake out.   Most analysts seem to think Google’s in fine shape competitively regardless of their decision and I’d agree with that.   In fact Yahoo’s stubborn refusal to look for the winning Microsoft combination here may be yet another nail in their corporate coffin.    I can’t help but think this is ego-centric thinking rather than the broad, practical, and innovative thinking that built Yahoo in the first place.    

Given that YHOO was trading well under $20 last week I just can’t see how they can make a strong case to Microsoft (or shareholders) that MS needs to pay a premium of over 100% on this deal.    That said, I do think Yahoo is undervalued in the technological sense – they have much of what Google has and have much of the potential Google has, yet they are capitalized at about 1/4 Google even with the recent Google stock meltdown and Yahoo stock upswing from the MS offer.   Yahoo’s a great company. Unfortunately they have failed dramatically for many years to use this greatness to be profitable and they have failed to make the case to Wall Street.  

What is the right answer in all this?     It’s simple:

1.   Microsoft should counter the $40 request with an offer of $34 per share at Wednesday’s MS stock price.

2.   Microsoft will keep Yahoo intact largely in current form for six months.   Yang and the Yahoo board will be given SIX MONTHS to kick whatever asses need kicking to make Yahoo more profitable.   If Yahoo’s looking healthy in six months they’ll stay on this course, but if they can’t fix in six, send them to the sticks and MS will take over in heavy handed form.

3.  Reorganize the languishing publisher programs at MS and Yahoo to compete more effectively with Google Adsense, which has a virtual monopoly in this space and accounts for over 40% of Google revenue.

Disclosure:  Long on Yahoo

Yahoo – Game Over Dudes?

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Kara Swisher over at All Things D  has an excellent post about the Yahoo Microsoft merger where in my view she suggests correctly that the game is pretty much over.    Google won’t do much to get in to this mess (they’d almost certainly be prohibited from aquiring Yahoo due to antitrust rules), and Microsoft is unlikely to up the generous offer which now amounts to about $29-$30 per share depending on Microsoft’s share price at the deal.   Most importantly, the Yahoo board cannot turn this down without the risk of lawsuits from now until the singularity.    If Microsoft had only offered a few dollars above the sagging YHOO share prices last week this story could be different, but I cannot see how the Yahoo board can come up with a plan to keep the stock around $30 per share AND turn down the Microsoft offer.    I suppose Google might sweep in with a good enough partnership that investors would not be spooked, but that now appears less likely and frankly if anybody might have a hint about that it would be Kara Swisher who has significant insider information about Google.

Ergo, MicroHoo appears to be coming soon to an internet near you.

Disclosure:  Long on Yahoo.

Microsoft and Yahoo

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I’m still digesting all the Yahoo Microsoft commentary but it seems to shake out as tech folks thinking it will not work and investment folks loving the deal.    Hmmm – the comments seemed favorable, but Microsoft lost a huge chunk of value in stock trading so clearly the “market” is skeptical of this.

One of the things I’ve noted in Silicon Valley is how popular Google has become and how poorly regarded Yahoo and Microsoft have been with respect to internet stuff, though part of this may be that I’m involved with mostly search related online events and conferences and Google clearly rules that roost.   I think the Google success and mystique has probably kept tech folks from focusing on the huge potential of a combined MS / Yahoo empire.    Where both Google and Yahoo have succeeded in capturing online traffic Microsoft has conspicuously failed.   Yet Microsoft has continued to pull very expensive enterprise computing rabbits out of its hat, with even the most recent earnings reports suggesting they still are a dominant and profitable force in the software market.     What better way to smooth the transition from old to new than to buy Yahoo?      Pitfalls?   Sure, but the cultural differences will be happily overlooked by Yahoo employees hungry to see their stock pulled out of the sewer.      If Microsoft is smart they won’t merge the brands – rather inject life and some cash into the flailing Yahoo search and affiliate system.    Microsoft could strongarm online affiliate publishers in a way Yahoo could not – by essentially bribing them to move over from Google via 100% revenue sharing.    The extra total traffic and buzz would be well worth the sacrifice of some of the publishing money.     

As a Yahoo stock holder I’m obviously happy to see the offering price pull the stock up, and positive attention focused on this deal, but I also think it’s a good ideas for the reasons I’ve discussed over the past year.   Most notably MS internet failures, Yahoo’s internet successes in Web 2.0, and the huge combined traffic footprint of a combo-company.

Henry Blodget, who helped me in an oblique way with his rumor that pushed me to buy more Yahoo on Tuesday, now is reporting that there may be other parties interested in Yahoo.   This would make sense given the companies clear potential to be as successful as Google while it languishes at a Market capitalization of about 20% of Google.   I’ve never understood the huge pessimism about the company – clearly the “number two” online behemoth.     We’ve got dozens of major automakers, oil companies, etc.  Why is there an assumption that only Google can succeed online?

Disclosure:  I’ve got Yahoo, and finally don’t have to say that hanging my head in shame.